File talk:Example.jpg

Protected edit request on 20 August 2016

Hi.

This request applies to: File:Example.jpg and File:Example.png. (This page is their talk page.)

Request: Please remove {{ShadowsCommons}} from both images.

Reason: We do not want to (1) rename these files locally, (2) move them to Commons, (3) nominate them for deletion or (4) nominate the Commons version for deletion. So, why on earth do we have a template whose sole purpose is to encourage editors to do all these things? {{Example files}} is more than enough. We must seek to communicate any message through {{Example files}}.

Codename Lisa (talk) 21:34, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done: See previous section. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:57, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

@Redrose64: My request was granted in the previous section! I made this request on the strength of that section. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 06:51, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Personally, I wonder if we do need the local file to be different from commons:File:Example.jpg - I'd simply upload the commons file over the local one and resolve the shadowing this way. Or, since the Commons file of the same name and scope is already multiple protected for being widely used on Commons (including sensitive interface pages), just delete and salt the local copy. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:03, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus: Since you are an admin, you have the luxury of doing that. I don't. All I can do is to tolerate noise in my backlog and hope that when I make a request to eliminate that noise, it is at least declined for a good reason if declined at all. —Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 08:24, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

@Redrose64: I see that it was you who inserted this template and the reason you reject my request is to protect your own edit. Would you mind explaining to us what benefit this template offers that justifies keeping it, despite the fact that it adds noise to the backlog and gives advices that no editor can carry out (because of protection)?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 10:05, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

The edit summary shows why; the thread is now archived to File talk:Example.jpg/Archive 1#Edit request 2015-01-31. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:29, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

@Redrose64: I do not find the edit summary. If there indeed is one, please spare me of the wild goose chase and either link to it or copy and paste it here. The sooner you do that, the sooner we all part. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 13:03, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

You stated "I see that it was you who inserted this template", therefore you must have found this edit. It has an edit summary: I never omit one. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:06, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

@Redrose64: Okay, let's say I found it. Now, let's get back to my question: "Would you mind explaining to us what benefit this template offers that justifies keeping it, despite the fact that it adds noise to the backlog and gives advices that no editor can carry out (because of protection)?" Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 13:23, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Have you looked at the archived thread that I linked? It was a WP:PER by Stefan2 (talk · contribs), to which I responded. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:54, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

@Redrose64: Am I to assume to you would grant any WP:PER even if it requests addition of some juicy profanity to the page? I don't think so. Somehow, you thought "wow, this request is a good idea!" And that brings us back to my question: What benefit does the insertion of this template offer that justifies keeping it, despite the fact that it adds noise to the backlog and gives certain pieces advice that no editor can carry out?

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 20:13, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

@Codename Lisa: If you find that you have a compulsion to remove all files from the backlog, it may be time to either remove the backlog from your watch list or take a wikibreak. 208.54.32.188 (talk) 00:42, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

That was an ad hominem remark in violation of WP:CIVIL! Why do you dodge the question? i.e. what justifies keeping log dirty? —Codename Lisa (talk) 07:46, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

@Codename Lisa:, there is no consensus to rename the files here or on commons. However, the files here do in fact shadow commons and should be tagged with the {{ShadowsCommons}} template to avoid possible confusion. The only problem that this presents is that it causes the files to appear in a category which some editors, such as yourself, just do not like. In addition to the two solutions for those editors provided above, there is a third: add a parameter to {{ShadowsCommons}} that allows images that shadow commons to continue to be tagged with the template, but not appear in the backlog category. 2601:5C2:101:2DBA:8D58:1CA9:D7D8:532A (talk) 23:35, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Evading my question still.

I am not saying I like or don't like. I am asking what's the good of it?

Of course, you would evade my question, wouldn't you? I know who you are.

—Codename Lisa (talk) 07:01, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

@Codename Lisa: Are you accusing 2601:5C2:101:2DBA:8D58:1CA9:D7D8:532A (talk) of being me? --Redrose64 (talk) 19:58, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

No. —Codename Lisa (talk) 06:41, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Break

A few comments from me. Stefan2 did not provide a rationale when he made the original request. So far Redrose64 has also declined to provide a justification for using this template on this file. My opinion is that {{shadows commons}} is for files which need to be "fixed" in some way. If this local version is to be retained indefinitely then the template's wording does not seem to apply. So on that basis I support the request to remove this template. Are there any other comments? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:47, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

I've actioned the request — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:38, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

I support this. As can be read in Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup, templates aren't badges of shame. Their purpose is to make problem known, so that it is resolved but they must be ultimately removed. FleetCommand (Speak your mind!) 16:20, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Minimizing or maximizing

How do I minimize or maximize an image? Gioguch (talk) 00:23, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@Gioguch: Have you tried the help desk? This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page File:Example.jpg. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:38, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 12 January 2022

i want to add other versions Copperwidth (talk) 02:36, 12 January 2022 (UTC)