Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Examples of shows said to have jumped the shark

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was work out some way of merging this with another article. An odd one for me to deal with, once someone merges the content then I'd suggest they setup a redirect. - Ta bu shi da yu 05:53, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Examples of shows said to have jumped the shark

Inherently POV and unencyclopedic. Some examples could be merged into Jump the shark if not already done. -- Curps 21:28, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC) OK, it seems that this was created as a breakout page from Jump the shark. The question still remains if it is an encyclopedic NPOV-able article in its own right. -- Curps 21:51, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Note this article has been moved to A list of Television Show Casting Changes. Also please note that the principal contributor to this article likes to remove the VfD notice at the top. Taco Deposit | Talk-o to Taco 19:13, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. Keep it but change the title to "List of shows said to have jumped the shark." It's an interesting read and without reading it, I really had no idea what jumping the shark meant. — Brim 22:23, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Inherently POV and a copy of the "Jump the Shark" website's lists. -Sean Curtin 00:30, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)
• Rename as per Brim and keep. --Centauri 00:33, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and Merge into Jump the shark article. --Woohookitty 00:36, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Inherently POV and unverifiable. This is not only another dumb list, but there are no clear criteria for inclusion on it. Anything encyclopedic that can possibly said on this subject can be said in the article on Jump the shark. How many articles on this minor meme are there going to be? Wikipedia is not a chat room. --BM 01:28, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, POV unnecessary list, article as it stands is un-encyclopaedic. Megan1967 01:58, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Abstain, but note that the title of this article and what it concerns itself with are incongruent. "Jumping the shark" (sorry for the spoiler) refers to the point when a show's ratings show it has passed its prime; the article concerns itself with casting changes. Not the same. The title, though not the body of the article, also raises POV concerns. If this discrepancy can be rectified, worthy of an article. We have dumber lists. Denni☯ 04:58, 2005 Feb 9 (UTC)
• Merge with jump the shark but be careful of POV. Also, I'd be cautious to make sure there's no copyvio with any Jump the Shark book/website that contains a similar list. 23skidoo 05:51, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Entirely POV. K1Bond007 06:47, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)
• Merge to Jump the shark. This content is still worthy of being here because it is a synopsis of widespread consensuses of viewers of the various shows at the JumpTheShark website. For example, of course the Monty Python one was a no-brainer; since John Cleese has been highly praised for his work in the troupe, the show would have had to jump the shark if he ever left; and he did, so it did. In addition, I would expect that most of these reasons for jumping the shark would be mentioned in the articles on the shows. --Idont Havaname 05:00, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. A visit to jumptheshark.com shows that every show has been said, by someone or other, to have jumped the shark. Taco Deposit | Talk-o to Taco 18:35, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC) P.S. The term "jump the shark" has jumped the shark.
• Delete. Unavoidably subjective (as the various discussions on jumptheshark.com show). And please don't merge with jump the shark - we just deleted about five pages of this stuff from there. DJ Clayworth 18:40, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Comment The original author now seems to have removed the page and redirected it to A list of Television Show Casting Changes, which is different in nature. -- Curps 19:40, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• This is funny; the title has changed, but clearly not the content to match. "Sanford and Son, when the show started using Grady too much." How is that a casting change? Aaron Sorkin quitting the West Wing? There was a brief discussion on the Talk:Jumping the shark page about the removal of the list that used to be part of the article. It was generally seen as a good move, as the list had ogtten ridiculously long and subjective. Mentioning a few of the best examples in the body of the article would be best (not as a list that people will feel the need to add to ad nauseum). This article, as it now stands, might be made encyclopedic, but presently is not. Most shows have had some sort of casting change at some point, and a mere list is pretty useless. Delete. -R. fiend 21:28, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Hopelessly POV and potentially infinite as every show usually ends up jumping the shark. Gamaliel 05:34, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with Jump the Shark, and edit to keep only famous examples from really well-known shows (which I realize is very subjective) 212.206.63.108 10:38, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. The link to jumptheshark.com is fine. That site maintains the concept and it's list well. IMO, we don't need to mirror/fork their content or create our own version. See also Talk:Jumping the shark for some discussion--Sketchee 04:06, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC)
• Merge. A lot of these are good examples of popularly percieved examples "shark jumping," and should be condensed and moved into Jumping the shark. Redirect too maybe, although that's less important. UserGoogol 10:36, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Spinboy 23:11, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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