Translation of constellation maps labels to French[edit]

If you've translated something, please change the

style="color: red"

to

style="color: green"

in the <td> element.

There are some three-letter abbreviations. If you think it's appropriate, please translate them, too, but keep their shortness. Keep the LaTeX commands. These are all the strange things (mostly word beginning with backslashs, and different braces) around the actual labels.

About the copyright question (because perpetually it seems to be a problem): The English constellation maps have my (Torsten Bronger) copyright which means that I am the original author. But they are published under the terms of the GFDL nevertheless, and that is all that counts. Thus they can be used freely according to this licence.

The French maps – if they come – will have no copyright or the copyright of the uploader (who I won't be due to lack of time). I will deliver a only zip file with the bitmaps. -- Torsten Bronger 11:28, 16 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Should it be "LMC" or "GNM"? I've found only quite a few pages with GNM, but anyway. – Torsten Bronger 07:33, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

If there is not much space, I have to abbreviate the constellation name with three letters. But how should we abbreviate e.g. "Libra"–"Balance"? With "Lib" oe with "Bal"? – Torsten Bronger 07:11, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I don't know, even if french is more or less my native language, there is a lot of thing that I know much better in english than in french, like the constellation names or the usage of "GNM" ... I will look for this information. At first sight, it seems that the latin abbreviations are used. -- Looxix

Another thing is the upper/lowercase question. "Petit chien" or "Petit Chien" or "petit chien"? – Torsten Bronger 09:02, 19 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Mmmm, very good and difficult question. I must check. -- Looxix

You can download provisional versions at [[1]]. The integration of remaining problems (stylistic and typographic) can be done within minutes. – Torsten Bronger 13:27, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Thanks a lots Torsten I will quickly install them on the wiki (alas, a lot of constellation article are still no done on fr:). -- Looxix 22:14, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)

The table[edit]

English	French
\\FlexLabel{Apus}	\\FlexLabel{Oiseau~de~Paradis}
\\FlexLabel{Camelopardalis}	\\FlexLabel{Girafe}
\\FlexLabel{Chamaeleon}	\\FlexLabel{Camaéléon}
\\FlexLabel{Draco}	\\FlexLabel{Dragon}
\\FlexLabel{Mensa}	\\FlexLabel{Table}
\\FlexLabel{Octans}	\\FlexLabel{Octant}
\\FlexLabel{UMi}	\\FlexLabel{UMi}
\\FlexLabel{Ursa~Minor}	\\FlexLabel{Petite~Ourse}
\\vbox{\\hbox{Andro-}\\hbox{meda}}	\\vbox{\\hbox{Andro-}\\hbox{mède}}
\\vtop{\\hbox{Canis}\\hbox{Major}}	\\vtop{\\hbox{Grand}\\hbox{Chien}}
Camelopardalis	Girafe
\"Canes Venatici\"	\"Chiens de chasse\"
\"Canis Major\"	\"Grand chien\"
\"Canis Minor\"	\"Petit chien\"
\"Coma Berenices\"	\"Chevelure de Bérénice\"
\"Corona Australis\"	\"Couronne australe\"
\"Corona Borealis\"	\"Couronne boréale\"
Draco	Dragon
\"Leo Minor\"	\"Petit lion\"
\"Piscis Austrinus\"	\"Poisson austral\"
\"Ursa Major\"	\"Grande Ourse\"
\"Ursa Minor\"	\"Petite Ourse\"
\FlexLabel{Cepheus}	\FlexLabel{Céphée}
\FlexLabel{UMa}	\FlexLabel{UMa}
\"\\\\footnotesize Achernar\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Achernar\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Acrux\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Acrux\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Aldebaran\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Aldébaran\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Algol\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Algol\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Alioth\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Alioth\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Alkaid\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Alkaïd\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Antares\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Antarès\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Arcturus\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Arcturus\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Atair\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Ataïr\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Betelgeuse\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Bételgeuse\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Canopus\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Canopus\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Capella\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Capella\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Castor\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Castor\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Choo\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Choo\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Cor Caroli\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Cor Caroli\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Deneb\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Deneb\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Denebola\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Denebola\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Dubhe\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Dubhe\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Fomalhaut\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Fomalhaut\"
This is the Large Magellanic Cloud "LMC":
\"\\\\footnotesize L\\\\kern0.1emM\\\\kern0.1emC\"	\"\\\\footnotesize L\\\\kern0.1emM\\\\kern0.1emC\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Mira\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Mira\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Mirfak\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Mirfak\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Polaris\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Polaris\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Pollux\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Pollux\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Procyon\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Procyon\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Regulus\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Régulus\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Rigel\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Rigel\"
This is the Small Magellanic Cloud "SMC":
\"\\\\footnotesize S\\\\kern0.1emM\\\\kern0.1emC\"	\"\\\\footnotesize S\\\\kern0.1emM\\\\kern0.1emC\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Sirius\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Sirius\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Sirrah\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Sirrah\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Spica\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Spica\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Toliman\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Toliman\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Vega\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Véga\"
\"\\\\footnotesize Virgo galaxy cluster\"	\"\\\\footnotesize Amas de la Vierge\"
\"\\\\footnotesize\\\\itshape Coalsack\"	\"\\\\footnotesize\\\\itshape Sac de charbon\"
\\parbox[t]{1.8cm}{Serpens\\\\Caput}	\\parbox[t]{1.8cm}{tête~du\\\\serpent}
\\parbox[t]{2cm}{Ser\\\\Cauda}	\\parbox[t]{2cm}{queue\\\\du~ser.}
\"\\\\small Crux\"	\"\\\\small Croix du Sud\"
\"\\\\smaller Corvus\"	\"\\\\smaller Corbeau\"
\\vtop{\\hbox{Piscis}\\hbox{Austrinus}}	\\vtop{\\hbox{Poisson}\\hbox{austral}}
\\vtop{\\hbox{Triangulum}\\hbox{Australe}}	\\vtop{\\hbox{Triangle}\\hbox{austral}}
Andromeda	Andromède
Antlia	\"Machine pneumatique\"
Apus	\"Oiseau de paradis\"
Aqr	Aqr
Aquarius	Verseau
Aquila	Aigle
Ara	Autel
Aries	Bélier
Ari	Ari
Auriga	Cocher
Boötes	Bouvier
Boo	Boo
CMa	CMa
CVn	CVn
Caelum	Burin
Cae	Cae
Cam	Cam
Cancer	Cancer
Capricornus	Capricorne
Cap	Cap
Carina	Carène
Car	Car
Cassiopeia	Cassiopée
Centaurus	Centaure
Cen	Cen
Cepheus	Céphée
Cep	Cep
Cetus	Baleine
Cet	Cet
Chamaeleon	Camaéléon
Circinus	Compas
Cir	Cir
Cnc	Cnc
Columba	Columbe
Corvus	Corbeau
CrA	CrA
CrB	CrB
Crater	Coupe
Crt	Crt
Crux	Croix
Crv	Crv
Cygnus	Cygne
Cyg	Cyg
Delphinus	Dauphin
Del	Del
Dorado	Dorade
Dor	Dor
Equuleus	\"Petit cheval\"
Equ	Equ
Eridanus	Éridan
Eri	Eri
Fornax	Fourneau
Gemini	Gémaux
Grus	Grue
Hercules	Hercule
Her	Her
Horologium	Horologe
Hor	Hor
Hya	Hya
Hydra	\"Hydre\"
Hydrus	\"Hydre mâle\"
Hyi	Hyi
Indus	Indien
Ind	Ind
LMi	LMi
Lacerta	Lézard
Lac	Lac
Leo	Lion
Lepus	Lièvre
Libra	Balance
Lib	Lib
Lupus	Loup
Lynx	Lynx
Lyra	Lyre
Mensa	Table
Microscopium	Microscope
Mic	Mic
Monoceros	Licorne
Mon	Mon
Musca	Mouche
Norma	Règle
Octans	Octant
Ophiuchus	Ophiuchus
Oph	Oph
Orion	Orion
Ori	Ori
Pavo	Paon
Pegasus	Pégase
Peg	Peg
Perseus	Persée
Phe	Phe
Phoenix	Phénix
Pictor	Peintre
Pic	Pic
Pisces	Poissons
Pleiades	Pléiades
PsA	PsA
Puppis	Poupe
Pup	Pup
Pyxis	Boussole
Reticulum	Réticule
Ret	Ret
Sagitta	Flèche
Sagittarius	Sagittaire
Scl	Scl
Scorpius	Scorpion
Sco	Sco
Sculptor	Sculpteur
Scutum	Écu
Serpens	Serpent
Ser	Ser
Sextans	Sextant
Sex	Sex
Sgr	Sgr
Taurus	Taureau
Tau	Tau
Telescopium	Télescope
Tel	Tel
TrA	TrA
Triangulum	Triangle
Tri	Tri
Tucana	Toucan
Tuc	Tuc
UMa	UMa
Vela	Voiles
Virgo	Vierge
Volans	\"Poisson Volant\"
Vol	Vol
Vulpecula	\"Petit renard\"

Style discussion[edit]

Should the maps on fr: have a different visual appearance? -- Torsten Bronger 11:28, 16 Nov 2003 (UTC)

personnaly, I prefer the default dark blue background. -- Looxix

What about having fewer stars? The English maps sometimes look very dotty, and the constellation labels often collides with such very faint stars. Orion is a counter-example. – Torsten Bronger 10:43, 19 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Yes, I think this is a good idea. -- Looxix