User talk:Moink/archive110704

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• May 10, 2004: User talk:Moink/archive100504
• Mar 16, 2004: User talk:Moink/archive160304

Deletion of Redirects

Can I delete a redirect page? If yes, how?

If no, could you delete these:

1. Indian Institute of Science
2. Indian Institute of Science, Bang
3. Indian Institute of Science Bangalore

so that Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore can be moved to Indian Institute of Science Rajasekaran Deepak 22:59, 2004 May 13 (UTC)

I answered you at User talk:Rajasekaran Deepak. moink 23:03, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

Thanks. Could you delete the redirect Indian Institute of Science Bangalore also? Rajasekaran Deepak 23:08, 2004 May 13 (UTC)

There are too many ways to separate Indian Institute of Science from "Bangalore". Using a comma followed by space is standard. There are many non-standard ways: only hyphen; only space; and hyphen surrounded by space. Providing redirects for non-standard names complicates the situation.

I moved another redirect to it while trying to remove the redirect (about an hour ago). So, there will not be any external links to it. There are no internal links to it. So it is safe to delete it. Rajasekaran Deepak 23:29, 2004 May 13 (UTC)

IITs and IIMs

There are 7 IITs and 6 IIMs, and each is identified by the acronym and city of location. The IIT and IIM brands are well-known in many countries. I suggest moving

1. Indian Institutes of Technology to IIT
2. Indian Institute of Technology, Guwahati to IIT Guwahati
3. Indian Institutes of Management to IIM

photo

your photo looks like it should be inside one of those edward gorey silent books... "the rugate scaffold" or some such. +sj+ 18:24, 2004 May 17 (UTC)

The Fatal Lozenge! The Green Beads, The Blue Aspic, Dancing Cats and Neglected Murderesses! You'd fit right in. (: You don't happen to be from a moor, manor, or marsh, do you? +sj+ 20:07, 2004 May 17 (UTC)

Welcome back

Did you miss the wikipedia? --Ben Brockert 00:01, May 25, 2004 (UTC)

Come back from a vacation the same time as me eh? Coincidence or is the universe responding again in an unimportant and vague way...Ho-hum. Welcome back. GrazingshipIV 00:22, May 25, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you. Did I miss it... err... a little, I guess. Universe being vaguely responsive.. possible. moink 02:35, 25 May 2004 (UTC)

Thanks

Sometimes I sit and ponder what it is I've done to receive the accolades of fine editors such as yourself. I reflect on my time here and can't find many truly noble or noteworthy moments in my editing...mostly fixing sentence style and contributing the odd article about medieval authors or baseball players from the early 1900s. Yet obviously there is something of value in my contributions, and I am grateful always to get kind comments such as yours. I hope your time here is going well, and wish you happy editing in whatever corner of this expansive place you find yourself -- keep up the fine work, and know that you have more than earned my respect and admiration for the work you do here. :-) Jwrosenzweig 17:55, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

snarky who/whom comment

With regard to the Toronto Star and weblog, you ask "On the other hand, what's with the (sic)? Is the author picking on the 'who' vs 'whom' distinction?"

Yes, that's exactly what he's doing. As you point out, he's misattributed both the quotation and the grammatical error. The only way I can think of to avoid such things is to stick our own snarky little "[sic]" into the quote, or avoid that part of the quotation. - Nunh-huh 22:11, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I think he was pretty obnoxious too....I think the current solution (changing it to [whom] in brackets) is a good solution, less repulsive than the sic which I believe is an abbreviation for "I know more than he does" <g>. - Nunh-huh 04:17, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Great editing

Many thanks! I'm just trying to get some stuff done before leaving... I will be gone from the 'pedia for about two months, and I'm trying not to leave anything half-finished. Tuf-Kat 05:22, Jun 16, 2004 (UTC)

The dropping of eaves

Good for you! No apology needed for the dropping of eaves, it's expected, and I'm happy to have an answer from any quarter<g>. -- Nunh-huh 22:50, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Re: Identity

To comment on your note at User talk:Dwindrim, actually, a conversation I've had recently explained everything quite nicely to me. Solipsism is our solution. The only question we've left to decide is which of us is an extension of the other's self....today, I'm feeling mostly figmented, so I'll assume for the time being that you are the mind that has constructed the universe. I don't know why you brought Wik into existence, but then, mysterious are your ways, O moink. :-) Have a great day. Jwrosenzweig 16:27, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I feel strangely compelled to thank you for your note. ;-) I am very pleased to finally finish my degree -- I am now ready to go corrupt the high school minds of Western Washington (in my interview, they were most impressed when I responded to the technology question that I was an administrator for an online encyclopedia project....I think I may be dragging classes through here soon, as if I haven't found enough stress here in recent weeks! :-). I had no idea anyone paid attention to my user page updates but me -- nice to know someone notices. I've been thinking of moving my "brag sheet" to a subpage, but it's handy to have there, and it makes it easy to find things I worked on once and forgot about. Does it seem too prideful to have it there on the main user page? Please be honest. :-) Jwrosenzweig 18:08, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Admin recommendation

Moink - I have to tread lightly; I'm not prepared to respond to this suggestion. Wikipedia, for me, has been primarily a place to provide outlet for my passion for teaching. I approach a suggestion of adminship much as an active and enthusiastic field agent might approach an offer to fly a desk, with trepidation and the fear of being tied up by petty disputes, sub-sub-subclause bylaw issues, and phonecalls from superiors and subordinates who have chosen to yell at each other through you.

I truly appreciate your nomination, and would be willing to accept if it allows me to rub virtual shoulders with some whom I rank as gods and goddesses (being non-theistic, that's not as impressive as it might sound). But at the same time, I need the freedom to do what I most love, which is to write.

It would seem that the only way to test the temperature of the water is to get in. I do believe I have the option of stepping out if I feel I cannot fulfil the role. So I accept your offer of support, and await the next set of directions.

(BTW, as a fellow Western Canadian, I hold your recommendation above all others. Anyone who can survive a Burnaby winter and then move to Toronto will be an important contributor to the gene pool after a major environmental event : ) )

Denni☯ 08:29, 2004 Jun 24 (UTC)

Thanks for the help at RD

I do enjoy a nice amusing comment at the reference desk as much as the next person, but I think it may irritate the questioner, and certainly the answers are not always obvious. To an arts major like me, C did not jump out as "carbon" as much as it should have, and so I'm left floundering, trying to offer information where I am woefully incapable of informing. Thanks for providing a clear and accurate response! Jwrosenzweig 22:48, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

beans

aw poo, seems like you edited my edit

Nunh-huh is a giant with the ability to shoot blue flames out of his nipples, credited for rediscovering the art of making home made plastic explosives out of rodents and microscopic jelly fish his true claim to fame came when he saved four baby tree imps while battling the forces of evil with nothing more than a tooth pick and a bottle of armor all

I'm available for weddings and bar mitzvahs. -- Nunh-huh 05:56, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

It's just as well. The blue flames are extra, anyway<g>. -- Nunh-huh 06:00, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Governor General

"Governor General", like "Attorney General" or "court martial", is in noun-adjective form, rather than the standard English adjective-noun form, because it's a borrowing from the French (which language uses the noun-adjective form). It's a part of the English language because of the Norman Conquest of England; the Norms were French speaking descendent of Vikings, and used French as the language our the (royal) court and the law courts even after conqueringthe English. orthogonal 19:03, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

It might be an idea to say that the boring Liberal MPs are liberals in the article, rather than just boring MPs, if you see what I mean. Secretlondon 03:29, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Protection

I know I should know this but where do I go to request that National Socialism be protected? WHEELER is trying to change it from a disambig page to an article despite the fact that his attempt to write an article Early National Socialism/draft is on the verge of being deleted. I can't protect it since I've previously been reverting WHEELER on that page. Do I simply ask a fellow admin to protect it or is there a formal request page? Thanks AndyL 19:36, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for fixing my Ed Wood Jr. Image. I love you!

Vandalism

You stated on User talk:205.188.116.23 that if anonymous continues to vandalise pages he or she "will be prevented from editing Wikipedia." How would that be done? Hyacinth 05:09, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Re:Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Raul654

Just thought I'd let you know that your support of Anthony's RFC on me was incorrectly placed. As per the page instructions - because you did not attempt to settle the dispute, you cannot certify the RFC (IE, "Users certifying the basis for this dispute"). Instead, you should have signed under "Other users who endorse this statement". As this this is the case, and since no one but anthony has actually come forth to certify it after 48 hours, it's invalid and should be deleted. Just thought I'd let you know. →Raul654 19:34, Jul 22, 2004 (UTC)

Mediation Committee membership

Congratulations, Moink! You're now a member of the Wikipedia:Mediation Committee! Please add an email address where people can reach you to the list here.

Also, please read the following pages carefully if you haven't yet done so: Wikipedia:Dispute resolution, Wikipedia:Mediation, m:What Mediation is not (including the links at the bottom of that page), m:Incivility, and Wikipedia:Requests for mediation.

And last, but not least, please register at the Wikimedia bulletin board here and familiarize yourself with the mediation section (sometimes it's a bit dodgy, but refreshing the pages usually does the trick there).

And thanks so much for agreeing to help with the work of the committee and of dispute resolution at Wikipedia.

Peace, BCorr|Брайен 16:01, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Welcome to the committee Moink. Could you please confirm here that it was you who registered the id "moink" at the bulletin board. Many thanks -- sannse (talk) 16:49, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Yes, that was me. moink 17:55, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks moink. I've enabled full access -- sannse (talk) 19:24, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Theresa -- it was great to get to meet you on Saturday! I'm just stopping by to thank you for taking the initiative on the latest mediation request and to inform you that User:Danny has been nominated by Angela to be co-chair of the committee at the bulletin board.

Thanks, BCorr|Брайен 20:00, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Congrats and thanks

First of all, I was apparently absent (both in body and mind) when you came up for candidacy for the MC -- congratulations on your new position! I would have written something glowing about you, and feel a little badly that I failed to do so, but obviously your excellence was well known to the committee members without any additional evidence from me. :-) The other thing I wanted to say is that, when I came here to leave this note, I noticed your mediation notice -- thank you, sincerely. I am touched to be considered a friend (especially considering your obviously high standards, if I'm the only person whose friendship would preclude your mediation), and I hope you know I hold you in the same high regard. Best of luck to you in mediation -- should I become an arbitrator (a prospect I must admit I doubt will become a reality), I hope our friendship helps build a more natural and close bond between the MC and AC, respectively. Once again, you have my congratulations and my honest thanks. Jwrosenzweig 20:36, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Please, don't have any worries at all about philosophical differences. I admit, I smiled in perhaps mild surprise at open marriage and polyamory, since I hadn't been aware of your connections to those subjects -- I am, however, friends with several people who have practiced (or are practicing) polyamory, and I haven't found it make me any less their friend. I do find the concept a little confusing (a friend of mine is living with 5 people, and is in relationships with 4 of them -- I can't figure out how that works, emotionally), but not abhorrent certainly. To quote one wise Wikipedian's user page, "My faith does require me to believe certain truths about the universe, but that doesn't mean I'm here to impose them upon you or to interact with you based on my limited human perception of how well your life aligns with those truths." So to put it short, open marriage and polyamory don't fit my perception of the universe's ultimate grand design, but if someday I reach that higher plane and am told I was dead wrong on the subject, I will be nothing but delighted. Had you supported legalized murder or something, well, that would be harder to overcome. :-) And given my stay in Canada and my overall outlook on government and personal rights, your attachment to the NDP, environmentalism, and feminism, for example, do but confirm that we generally share a political perspective. And I wasn't familiar with attachment parenting (and am unsure if I would personally adopt all its prescriptions), but certainly I see the wisdom in much of it, and as someone who was homeschooled from cradle to college, it sounds very much like the family environment I grew up in and value. So I don't come away from it with any worries or tension -- much to the contrary. :-) And I hope my personal affinity for closed marriage and monogamy isn't offensive to you at all. Peace to you, Jwrosenzweig 21:21, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Mediation

Hi. Would you be willing to take on a rather challenging case of mediation? RK v. DanKeshet and Zero0000? I am also asking Neutrality, so if tempers flare, you can each represent one party and work it out between you. Please answer me on my Talk page. Thanks Danny 00:47, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Hi, I guess we can begin the mediation. Please contact Neutrality and teh various parties. Good luck, and if you have any questions, please let me know. Danny 23:05, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Mediation team

Danny assigned us to work put mediation between RK, et al. How should we proceed? Neutrality 00:00, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)