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Welcome Back

Thanks Shyamal, yup am back should now get down to some serious stuff on wikipedia, fill up some butterfly family information regarding india and stuff like that. Also the good butterfly season is back so more caterpillars and rearing and therefore more early stages photographs yipee.

Adding Info

Hi Shyamal, my name is Ashlin and am an aurelian. Got my love for Indian butterflies from late Shri Thomas Gay in Pune. Watched butterflies in Pune, Wellington and Himalayas. Possibly the only aurelian to have been to Nandadevi National Pk in 1993. Have a copy of Evans, Haribal, Kunte. I have some free time off and on. Love to thicken up some stubs. Would love some guidelines and help since new to contributing to Wikipedia. Who's coordinating the Indian Butterfly project? Excited about it.AshLin 14:05, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Tons of Wk done (by my stds at least)

Firstly all List of Butterflies of India (Papilionidae) have stubs - 11 new in all. Forked Ceylon & Malabar Roses. Reclassified Nevill's Windmill. Typed in a complete list of Papilionidae of India at Revised List of Butterflies of India (Papilionidae). Requires peer review. Source for classification - IUCN 1985 Red Data Book on Swallowtails. Good night, AshLin 22:47, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the reformatting and move to main page

Thanks. It's obvious that a lot of taxonomic rework is reqd. But now I'm going after the stubs, adding minimum info and references to all. Some meat reqd to move around the skeleton.:-)AshLin 05:16, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

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I Need to clean up

I agree. The status notes I've been putting out are sloppy. Need to learn about better formatting or better is to include it in the main article. I'll also remove the image links. Still concentrating on populating the entire Pap family with stubs so that info, both organised and peacemeal can start flow in. Did you see the saw-scaled viper pic I put up on the concerned page? Its my maiden image upload. AshLin 19:46, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Migratory bird categories

Hi. I've responded to your & jimfbleak's comment at CFD with a suggested new category name - I'd appreciate your view. SP-KP 10:18, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Progress on Papilionids while you are away

Hi, check out the progress on Papilionids while you are away here. AshLin 13:42, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

My style of working

Hi Shyamal, Welcome back. I was working on Commander and was taken aback to find that while I was experimenting with placement, someone already did the work and I had an edit conflict! Boy, was I surprised! :).

My style is first to develop the raw text offline, place it online and immediately save it. Then I settle down to a long edit session. I fiddle around with previews till I get it just right. Maj rework offline. Incremental approach online. So generally my edit sessions can be as long as two hours. You'll see this behaviour on my part time and again.

Anyway, the gallery thumbnail idea is not optimal being too small and not placed next to the text, so I have made a better placement and undid your changes. The reader now does not have to go upto the gallery and try to look at a small image. He finds the appropriate image in a comfortable size right next to the relevant text.

(Remember some people are visually challenged and one must not need to peer for small details when we can it serve it right-sized for their ease and comfort.)

Trust me, I have been formally trained by Army in content creation. So I request you to defer in this regard.

I'm still not happy with some paragraphs of the Commander - e.g. the description of frass/caterpillar and so on. I'm also dumping 'Plain Tiger' now. Will Work on both these species for a few days. Request your edits for both these species once I have 'stabilised' them.

Nice to have you back. Can't stop :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :). Regards, AshLin 02:35, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Need more images, dude

Hi S, Seen my 'popular' responses on ButterflyIndia? Any more autobio articles like Stoliczka by you on Ind naturalists, tell me, I'll rewrite/format them as a change from butterflies. I need many more woodcut photos, can't you snap every woodcut of Bingham etc? Upload them into category family/scientific name pages in Wikipedia. See my talk at User Nature Loader in Wikimedia for suggested name conventions for Wikimedia images. Also need all your butterfly images of Wynaad. Send me by email, besides those three .AND. any old ones. Also, start canvassing for more photos. Tap friends, make acquaintances. In a week or two I'll have all Pierid and Danaiid stubs up. Some Nymphs too. Then, we'll require TONS of snaps. So get going man, I need INPUT.

See Danaus chrysippus the b*$ has absorbed TEN!!! photos and still looks bare. Of five photos I recieve, only one is of immediate use and others go into suspended animation till their article comes alive. OK, even if we average only five photos per species and there are only about 400 common species we'll get such photos for and one only for the rest, we still require 2600 photos and I have recd less than a hundred. Wake up dude. Network! Every little bit helps!! Urgently yours, AshLin 05:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Binomial author

Brilliant!!!! (sarcastically) Thats just what I need. OK will have to go back and check all those lovely brackets cos more than half will be wrong. Where do you read about the conventions?? I've gone thru the docs on lepindex and havent found any. Or are these wiki conventions and not lepindexes --Viren 07:21, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

OK now please take a look at the top of the pieirids page and tell me if I'm got the convention right. As far as I can tell I only have to watch for old combination and current combination. If the combination has changed then apply bracket. Right? --Viren 11:17, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Herpetologists

Hello,
Thanks for your message :

• Frank Wall -> fr:Frank Wall

But I don't know : H. S. Ferguson, Frank Finn (1868-1932), Robert Charles Wroughton (1849-1921), H. R. Baker, Robert A. Sterndale, Stanley Henry Prater, Charles Lionel Augustus de Nicéville (1852-1901) (I prepare a notice about him), W. S. Millard (may be Simeon Werner Millard ?), James A. Murray, Charles McCann, T. F. Bourdillon, Edward Pritchard Gee, Drury. Sorry.--Valérie75 13:50, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

more help reqd on binomials

Hi dude, sry for being such an idiot but See these 3 entries in lepindex
albina Lathy & Rosenberg 1912 CATASTICTA Papilionoidea Pieridae
albina Evans 1912 COLOTIS Papilionoidea Pieridae
albina Poey 1853 EUREMA Papilionoidea Pieridae

Which is the genus I should use. Evans listed it under Appias. These pieirids have made me loose confidence in my understanding of lepindex. Can you help please. I've gone thru the "How to interpet lepindex" article. As you can see it hasnt helped --Viren 03:27, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes that was an emormous help. Its just that lepindex does not give that kind of info(ie type described from region, previously described by) or maybe I dont know where to look for it. --Viren 07:15, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

a request

Thanks for the beautiful tarantula picture. When you put spider pix on the Commons, could you please visit http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Araneae and put in a link there too? I have no idea how many other spider images are lost somewhere in their stuff. I keep looking from time to time, but who knows whether I will find all the things there. I put your picture under the "mystery" category in the hope that somebody will notice it and identify it for us. How did that spider act, by the way? She looks like an Avicularia, but they belong half a world away. The Avics are generally about as mild tempered as you can find, and won't even run unless you get your hand really close. I accidentally pushed mine persistently from the wrong end and she just ignored me. (I was really asking for it, no?) But similar looks do not imply similar temperament across genera. P0M 04:49, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

If you want to drop me a line when you put more spider pix up I will be happy to copy the link somewhere into the araneae page. At least that way I'll be able to find it. :-) P0M 05:38, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

James Augustus Murray

Hi. Having read a book a few years ago about James Murray (lexicographer) (The Surgeon of Crowthorne v. good) I think I can safely say that he hardly ever left Oxford, and certainly never went to Karachi, and that we are talking about two different people. It also seems unlikely that "our" James Murray was ever knighted. I can therefore only assume that the Natural History Museum website is wrong! You may remember that when we discussed James A. Murray last December neither of us could come up with his middle name, let alone any dates, and I haven't unearthed any new information since. I think you may need to rename the article James A. Murray (naturalist) or something similar, and remove the dates. Everything else seems verifiable. All the best. Smallweed 13:33, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the Bingham links

Look, he's the fourth fauji I know about in butterflies, Evans, Wynter-Blyth, self and Bingham! AshLin 09:04, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Swinhoe is fifth, Betts is not a butterfly chap but is a fauji, and Ferrar is ICS, unless you know of his rank and he was seconded to a political appointment (this happened quite frequently). Will look at NAtHistInd later, busy now with uploading Bingham's pix into WMC. AshLin 10:18, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Great! Now I am seventh! Might be some more too :).

OK, see how I am interplaying a list and a wiki gallery for Bingham at :-

• http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AshLin/Bingham_images
• http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bingham%27s_Fauna_of_British_India_%28Butterflies%29#Butterflies

Have fun watching Bingham come alive on Wikimedia! Regards, AshLin 10:39, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Tragopan melanocephalus

Scientific name is already mentioned in paragraph 2. I don't see the need to put another one. --Stavenn 11:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, it is also a general practise not to put/repeated 2 scientific name (excluding taxobox) on the article. And yes, most of the scientific name mostly include in the introductory section, depends on the contents and creators.--Stavenn 12:16, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Celosia cristata

thanks for identifying it __earth ^(Talk) 06:46, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Raw dump of bird images on stubs

Whitebrowed Fantail Flyctacher White-eared Bulbul (thought it used to be white cheeked). Took shots, uploaded/categorised images. Made WP stubs. Bunged images into them. Refuse to write the articles. Can u help? AshLin 14:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

About Polyura dolon

Thanks, I was in two minds, found confusing facts. Issue is settled now. AshLin 14:03, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Asian Elephant distribution

Given the small distribution, you might want to make the map show a tighter bound than the entire world. Perhaps the Indian subcontinent and surrounding region? - UtherSRG (talk) 12:43, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Senior-White

Important man/unsung hero. One of the scourges of mankind. I went to the library but no luck. I'll try RES and then fill in biography. Many thanks.I'll see what I have on Bingham next Some of his btterflies are in the Belfast Museum collection perhaps Dublin too. All the bestNotafly 13:56, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Forgot

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_A._Senior-White Notafly 13:57, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Bingham

Put up a page on him too up to a point. Irish I see. Any more? . The 1897 Hymenoptera volume was missing from the FBritI page so I added it tooNotafly 13:52, 15 June 2006 (UTC) Cheers and thanks for the Irish entomologist Didn't know that. Other sources say born India but the obits are quite clear.