Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Neoplan Centroliner/archive1

Neoplan Centroliner

I want to suggest this article. Anyone have comments? --Cheung1303 09:17, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

• Yes. There's no point in discussing the article itself, since the images that illustrate it are blatant copyvios which have been uploaded again and again in defiance of Wikipedia policy, a behavior for which Cheung is currently being RfC'd. One of the images in the article, Image:KMB APM1 int.JPG, is actually mentioned by name on the RfC as being taken from Gakei.com, which has a conspicuous statement on its site that "ALL photo images were taken by GAKEI, who retains the copyright privilege over them. You are NOT welcome to show any of them to the public in any form or by any means without his permission IN ADVANCE". Cheung's relationship to "Jeffery" who has taken over uploading the same images (claiming to have photographed them himself) is discussed there, too. The users at the RfC seem to be in some despair at not getting through to Cheung about how wrong it is to upload copyrighted images and putting misleading tags on them. Raul, is it possible to just remove this nomination because the article is actually illegal?--Bishonen | Talk 23:44, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose. Not in depth enough compared with Mercedes-Benz_450SEL_6.9. Also the copyright issues mentioned by Bishonen. It's not difficult to take a picture of a Neoplan Centroliner (I just rode on one this morning) - so there's no reason why this issue cannot be solved. Also the english copy needs some improvement, there are grammatical issues. --JuntungWu 06:45, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Still oppose. Not in depth enough in terms of chassic, engineering stuff. --JuntungWu 09:39, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Neutral. Note that the images in this article, although initially suspected because of their similarity to earlier copyvio images uploaded by Cheung1303, were later accepted to be original images by User:Jeffery by the complainants on the RfC. I have no opinion on this article itself, but I thought I should clarify this. —Steven G. Johnson 01:40, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose I love buses, and have owned a Neoplan bus. I thought this article would tell me all about a particular Neoplan bus product. Instead, it seems to mostly focus on who bought them, how many, when, and colors chosen. I feel there is very little detail about the bus product itself. I would be glad to revisit the article when it is rewritten to be more comprehensive. Sorry, but for now, I feel it doesn't measure up to fac standards. Vaoverland 08:23, Jan 10, 2005 (UTC)