Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Prime Minister of the United Kingdom/archive1
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom[edit]
-- Emsworth 22:57, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Support. Zerbey 01:26, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Support. I think the article ought to say something about the controversy of 1974. (Labour won a plurality of seats but Heath did not resign immediately; see United Kingdom general elections) Gdr 03:05, 2004 Oct 27 (UTC)
- Addressed. -- Emsworth 22:07, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Object. Lead section too long. Page is 39kb so List of PMs should probably be split off. PoliticsUK should be made a footer and a relevant image be moved to the top.--Jiang 03:14, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)- A while back, PoliticsUK was in fact made a footer; but there were objections (from me, inter alia) and it was returned. Both this issue and the length of the lead section have been a topic of discussion on the talk page, Jiang; please give us some more detailed advice there! Doops 04:02, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I'm just trying to enforce some standards here. This article has to follow established standards and conventions to become featured. There is no argument against spitting off the list. As for the lead section, fluff like Tony Blair's full name and the "sucesses of his Labour Party in the 2001 election" are not relevant since this is an article on the institution. If it's not introductory, it does not belong. --Jiang 04:19, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I've removed the "fluff" (I'm not sure that's really the best word for it, but whatever) about the 2001 election. But we've trimmed the intro considerably over the last few days and I wonder what's left to cut. (As far as the list of prime ministers and Tony's full name/titles are concerned, I happen to agree with you, Jiang.) Doops 04:47, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I'm just trying to enforce some standards here. This article has to follow established standards and conventions to become featured. There is no argument against spitting off the list. As for the lead section, fluff like Tony Blair's full name and the "sucesses of his Labour Party in the 2001 election" are not relevant since this is an article on the institution. If it's not introductory, it does not belong. --Jiang 04:19, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I split off list of PMs to List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom. HTH, Whosyourjudas (talk) 04:34, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- A while back, PoliticsUK was in fact made a footer; but there were objections (from me, inter alia) and it was returned. Both this issue and the length of the lead section have been a topic of discussion on the talk page, Jiang; please give us some more detailed advice there! Doops 04:02, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Object. Inconsistent wikification of names. Georges I and III are wikified, but II is missing. Fifelfoo 07:58, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)Support. Fifelfoo 23:14, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)- Addressed. -- Emsworth 19:18, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Support Filiocht 11:42, Nov 1, 2004 (UTC)
Object for now: the lead section is far too long. Filiocht 08:34, Oct 27, 2004 (UTC)- Addressed. -- Emsworth 22:07, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Support. However there is some duplication (the Prec and Priv section has much that has already been said) that could be addressed -- William M. Connolley 08:55, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC).
- The section in question, I think, does not duplicate when it comes to precedence—it applies not only to precedence in England and Wales, but also to precedence to Scotland and Northern Ireland, which are not covered in the rest of the article. -- Emsworth 22:09, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Support -- ALoan (Talk) 09:40, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Object for now - lead section is too long, but the information can be incorporated or repetition reduced; no reference to Prime Minister's Questions; nothing about Spencer Perceval, the only PM to be assassinated; nothing about First Ministers in Scotland and Wales; seemingly no link to prime minister. -- ALoan (Talk) 11:36, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)- All addressed. -- Emsworth 19:52, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I have addressed the lead section objections (which I incidentally do not agree with, but will comply with anyway). Some of the information which is to be found elsewhere has been removed from the lead, including that about current controversies (sorry, Doops). -- Emsworth 19:29, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- It still has a very full three-paragraph lead: although it was all good stuff, the previous lead of four long paragraphs was just excessive (according to lead section, the lead is meant to be a brief summary with at most 3 paragraphs). But much better now. Excellent. -- ALoan (Talk) 09:40, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)