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The article NEIU Physical Education Complex has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

A search for references found a few promotional web hits and no published (gbook) WP:RS, fails WP:V and WP:N, Does it exist; yes, are there reliable sources for any of the article content; No

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Proposed merge[edit]

It is suggested that this article Winter Stadium (Montreal) be merged into CEPSUM Stadium . It is my feeling: I know very well the CEPSUM and the campus of Université de Montréal. The Winter Stadium (Montreal) probably does not merit his own article, and such content as is appropriate should probably be merged into the CEPSUM Stadium article. I invite discussion, --Charlesquebec (talk) 12:58, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd appreciate some assistance with bringing this new article up to code. This is a HUGE dome in the middle of a tiny town. Not only that, its distinctions make it notable. Raymie (tc) 00:59, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll put an infobox on there, filling in as much as I can from the article. Feel free to expand it. Also, I don't know what access you have to photographs, but those can really make a page when it comes to venues.
Other things I've done include changing sentence syntax and switching the sections. The lead now has a bit more to it and I made one "Uses" section with school and non-school subsections. Formatted the references with cite web as well. Feel free to adjust anything I've done or if you have any more questions, and nice work. Kithira (talk) 17:44, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sadly, I can't get photos. Any online photo I would use under fair use can't be done as such because a free photo could be taken. Raymie (tc) 21:54, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Succession boxes[edit]

One editor in the College Football Wikiproject is insisting on the removal of succession boxes on all stadiums that hosted college football teams in the United States. For stadiums and venues that host other sports/teams, this leads to an incomplete list of tenant succession boxes in the event and tenant lists on those articles. If you wish to add your opinion to this issue, please feel free to do so at the discussion pages of Recreation Park, Exposition Park, Forbes Field, Pitt Stadium, Three Rivers Stadium, Heinz Field. A general discussion of this and other issues can be found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football#Team navboxes.CrazyPaco (talk) 23:40, 25 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads-up, I left my comment on a couple of the pages, and it applies to the others you've listed here, as well, in my opinion. Kithira (talk) 19:03, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of stadiums (Closed/Open) by capacity error - Pontiac Silverdome[edit]

The Pontiac Silverdome, while no longer the primary home of a major sports franchise, is still an active venue. It should be moved to the active list.

http://www.silverdomeevents.com/events.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_closed_stadiums_by_capacity — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muppet1856 (talkcontribs) 20:08, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Odsal Stadium article help[edit]

Hi, I wondered if I could ask some people here for help with an article that is having some troubles: Odsal Stadium. Obviously I don't expect anyone here to be an expert on this particular venue and to add more references (although it depserately needs these), but some help trying to arrange the information that is already there into a suitable format according to the manual of style would be appreciated. Also I wanted to know regarding the infobox, if the name of the stadium changes because of sponsorship, as it has several times in this case, should the name at the top of the infobox change? I am inclined to think not, but would be interested to hear what people think. Thanks in advance. Kaleeyed (talk) 20:53, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I unfortunately wouldn't have the time or knowledge of rugby venue sources to help out, but the title of both the page and the infobox should reflect the official current name of the stadium. No matter how often the sponsor changes, the page name would change with it. It would, of course, also have a mention in the intro of other common names. Kithira (talk) 20:19, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion has started there about improving the article. Any help would be appreciated.Gtwfan52 (talk) 02:18, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The place where the Pensacola Blue Wahoos play[edit]

I would like to suggest you address the very important issues of name and capacity at a still-new minor-league baseball park. Conceived as Community Maritime Park Stadium, a part of a larger complex called the Vince J. Whibbs Sr. Community Maritime Park, this place is owned, ultimately, by the city. Before it opened last season, the ballclub that would be its primary tenant started calling it Blue Wahoos Park. Later in the year, the team began calling it Pensacola Bayfront Stadium. On both occasions, I contacted the city and was told the name had not been changed. Also, I had a friend drop by this week and the name on the stadium signage hasn't changed either. I actually think "Pensacola Bayfront Stadium" is a better name in several ways. Beside the point, though; the official name is the official name and is what should appear here. Also, the ballpark was originally planned to host 3,500 fans, but when Pensacola landed a Class AA team that presented a problem; minor-league baseball guidelines call for 6,000 at that level. The project was changed to increase seating, but to what? The city told me a week before it opened that it contained a specified number of seats somewhere in the fives but added that with SRO its actual capacity "approached 6,000." Your entry says its holds 5,270. But over the past two seasons, the club has reported 5,038 nearly 50 times and never more than that number. This is apparently what the club believes to be its capacity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.30.59.51 (talk) 14:50, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Capacity question[edit]

Regarding the infobox, I've seen articles that reflect the seating capacity in that box and other the reflect the standing room only numbers too. Which is the preferred number to go with? My instinct is to go with actually seating capacity. Niteshift36 (talk) 13:31, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move for Estádio do Maracanã[edit]

See Talk:Estádio do Maracanã#Requested move to Maracanã Stadium June 2014 for a requested move for Estádio do Maracanã to Maracanã Stadium. Heymid (contribs) 17:06, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested page move of O.co Coliseum[edit]

A recent requested page move of O.co Coliseum to Oakland Coliseum, which invokes WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NAMINGCRITERIA concerns, may be of possible interest to participants of this task force. Please discuss at Talk:O.co Coliseum#Requested move 2. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:54, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request move - Estádio Nilton Santos (Rio de Janeiro)/Estádio Olímpico João Havelange[edit]

Greetings! I have recently listed a requested move discussion at Talk:Estádio Nilton Santos (Rio de Janeiro)#Requested move 11 February 2015, regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, Hack (talk) 01:17, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced changes to ground capacities[edit]

An editor is making multiple unsourced changes to ground capacities. I would check them but the real world calls, so I call the attention of this project to this activity. Britmax (talk) 10:17, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

AfC submission[edit]

What do you think about Draft:Historic Dodgertown? Should it be merged with Holman Stadium (Vero Beach)? Best, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 17:56, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Order of tenants?[edit]

Is there any specific order a venue's tenants should be listed in? I feel like the standard is to list them chronologically from when they began occupying the venue but I've seen a lot of variation. For example, Atlanta–Fulton County Stadium lists the Braves, Falcons, and the NASL's Chiefs ahead of the Atlanta Crackers. The Braves and Falcons first started using the stadium in 1966 and the Chiefs in 1967. The minor-league Crackers used the stadium for one season in 1965. I think "notoriety" or major league/minor league status should take a backseat to chronology. American Money (talk) 13:29, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I just tagged the subject article as AfD as a duplicate of Estadio de Béisbol Alberto Romo Chávez, which has more hits on Google than Parque. The articles are virtual copy-paste of each other. Once Parque is deleted it should probably become a redirect.--John, AF4JM (talk) 00:03, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Icehouse (arena) listed at Requested moves[edit]

A requested move discussion has been initiated for Icehouse (arena) to be moved to O'Brien Group Arena. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 14:16, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Brick Field[edit]

A discussion which affects this community has started at Talk:Commonwealth Stadium (Edmonton)#Brick Field Logo. 117Avenue (talk) 22:34, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

An RfC is underway about a venue[edit]

There seems to be some opinions on the location used in the infobox of the T-Mobile Arena. The RfC is found here and perhaps if there are any active participants on this project, you could give your opinions in order to achieve a consensus on the use of Paradise or Las Vegas. Thank you, Yosemiter (talk) 21:34, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Venue names, commercial and non-commercial[edit]

Many stadia, if not most or all, and many other major venues, are subjected to sponsored or commercial naming rights, but are also well known by a non-commercial name. Commercial and non commercial (government non-profit) media prefer to exclusively use these different names, respectively. It is slightly confusing. I’m thinking it would be a good idea for venue article infoboxes to contain both names. Also to site and work through, sponsored names tend to be specific for a range of years, with sudden changes with change in sponsors, and non-sponsored names tend to persist with less definition and with multiple variations.

Has this been discussed before? —SmokeyJoe (talk) 20:43, 24 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge to Odi Stadium[edit]

I have just proposed the merge of Mmabatho Stadium into Odi Stadium. I'm hoping this is straightforward as it is clearly two articles about the same stadium, but I'm no wikipedia expert so could somebody else actually do the merge? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.21.25.123 (talk) 12:39, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notability of golf clubs and courses[edit]

There is currently a debate about the notability of golf clubs and courses at WT:GOLF#Notability of golf clubs and courses. Nigej (talk) 15:26, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Professional wrestling acknowledged as tenants of arenas[edit]

I have had issues with information added to the lead and infoboxes placing undue emphasis on WWE hosting its "WWE ThunderDome" bio-secure bubble at specific venues in the state of Florida (such as Tropicana Field and Amway Center). As they are not bona fide sporting events but sports entertainment, and not even a permanent residency, would they be appropriate to include? My personal opinion is that WrestleMania does deserve to be singled out because of the sheer scale of the event, but if you're just hosting routine programs and pay-per-views because you've chosen not to tour, that's a little different. ViperSnake151  Talk  19:04, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Bulldog Stadium#Requested move 2 September 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 13:56, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gas Plant Stadium proposed[edit]

Draft:Gas Plant Stadium is in the works; should this be approved or redirect to a section on Tropicana Field until groundbreaking is done? Please discuss at talk:Tropicana Field. Thanks. AngusW🐶🐶F (barksniff) 20:48, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 26 November 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 16:05, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]


Wikipedia:WikiProject Event Venues/Sports task forceWikipedia:WikiProject Sports/Facilities and venues task force – Transfer the task force from the inactive WP:WikiProject Event Venues to the very active project WP:WikiProject Sports, as this task force covers sports venues, it would be better to have it attached to an active community that has that under its scope already (this would become a dual signed TF, appearing under both project banners, but the primary project would become WPSPORTS) -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 05:14, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nom Parham wiki (talk) 17:30, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Better to have a taskforce/workgroup under a relevant wikiproject that is still active than ghettoized in a defunct one.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  04:49, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

WPSPORT TF update next steps[edit]

Ok, now that this is established under WPSPORT, the {{WPSPORT}} banner needs updating

|tf 1 = {{{venues|{{{facilities|{{{Venues|{{{Facilities|{{{VENUES|{{{FACILITIES|}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
 |TF_1_LINK       =Wikipedia:WikiProjectSports/Facilities and venues task force
 |TF_1_NAME       =Facilities and venues task force
 |TF_1_NESTED     =Facilities
 |TF_1_IMAGE      =Wembley Stadium closeup.jpg
 |TF_1_SIZE       =60px
|TF_1_QUALITY     =yes 
|TF_1_ASSESSMENT_CAT = sports facilities articles
 |TF_1_MAIN_CAT   = WikiProject Sports facilities articles

and a wp:BOTREQ to add {{WikiProject Sport|facilities=yes}} for every instance of {{WikiProject Event Venues|sports=y}} after the banner update.

-- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 21:30, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And to remove |sports=y[es] from any instances of {{WikiProject Event Venues}} since there is no such TF there any longer.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  08:43, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Mostly done, with regard to the template code, but see: Template talk:WikiProject Sports#Facilities and venues taskforce – we have to decide whether to turn on |TF_1_QUALITY=yes, which requires the creation of a bunch of assessment tracking subcategories like Category:B-Class sports facilities articles.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  08:43, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am an Italian Wikiipedian from Rome. I rewrote the said article and opened a peer review request. One of the main reasons I asked it is for language review as I am not a native speaker. Thanks. -- Blackcat 21:32, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]