Talk:Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church

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Autocephaly[edit]

How certain is this claim of autocephaly from 1924? Is there an official document from Constantinople, the tomos? -- User Igor:Igor 4:06, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Yes, that is what is being mentioned in the paragraph about Gregory VII. He issued a tomos then. Alex756 04:29, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Bad link in the previous comment. Tomos links to articles about Slovenian motorcycles. Luba 18 July 2005

As of 2018, there is no mention in the article of Gregory VII or what a Constantinople synod issued in 1921. Also see wikt:tomos for the meaning of "tomos". Wakari07 (talk) 12:09, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1980s[edit]

Is it valid to say that, in the late 1980s, UAOC claimed substantial membership in the Soviet Union, despite not being permitted to function openly? (Religion in the Soviet Union) It seems contradictory. UAOC couldn't claim "substantial membership" without at least 10-20 functioning parishes. How can there be functioning parishes if Church is not permitted to function? Where did those parishes come from? --Itinerant1 17:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There were functioning registered parishes in the Baltic states. Priests would cisit Ukraine and hold services in the woods.Bandurist (talk) 03:38, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Russophile" Church?[edit]

The article says this about the other Orthodox churches in Ukraine:

The others include the Ukrainian Orthodox Church-Kyiv Patriarchate (UOC-KP) and the Ukrainian Russophile Orthodox Church-Moscow Patriarchate (UROC-MP)

Is that a real name? The article on the church connected to the Moscow Patriarchate just calls it "Ukrainian Orthodox Church-Moscow Patriarchate". I'm going to revise this article to bring it into agreement with the other article ( and with external sites on the UOC-MP. Chonak (talk) 01:23, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

24.91.39.79 has added the "Russophile" bit to the article twice now. Chances are they will do so again. Some sort of administrative action will probably need to be taken as they clearly don't respect NPOV. Karatorian (talk) 04:03, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"The premises had been in the use of a schismatic group"?[edit]

This sounds rather POV. My guess is this refers to the supporters of Archbishop Ihor of Kharkiv and Poltava. They certainly consider their actions legitimate and do not consider themselves separated from UAOC, let alone "schismatic" (even though the eparchy is officially registered as a separate denomination). OTOH, Met. Mefodiy's UAOC is considered "schismatic group" by some. This should either be expanded with details of this conflict within UAOC (amounting to a new section) with all POVs represented, or removed from the article, as POV concerning living people. Sustymenko (talk) 05:46, 1 July 2011 (UTC) I'll go ahead and just delete the paragraph. 70.29.70.25 (talk) 03:26, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian Autocephalic Orthodox Church[edit]

So is this the same church as...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ukrainian_Autocephalic_Orthodox_Church_-_Stony_Lane_-_geograph.org.uk_-_639576.jpg
and http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-337151-ukrainian-autocephalic-orthodox-church-
If so I'll be wanting to put a Wikilink in.
Stuffed cat (talk) 21:18, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

liquidation after WWII[edit]

The article says that Orthodox Churches other than Muscophilite were liquidated after WWII, and then a few lines later says the same thing happened to the UGCC. The UGCC was "liquidated" by the 1946 "Synod of Lviv" - was the UAOC (et al) also the focus of a "synod"? --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 19:00, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Close to ten percent of the Christian population claim to be members of the UAPC."[edit]

What? This has got to be fake. Only 1.5% of the Ukrainian population alone claims to belong to the church. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liamnotneeson (talk • contribs) 06:05, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Difference from the Kiev Patriarchate[edit]

As someone not vested in the convoluted Eastern Orthodox church administrative division, reading these Wikipedia articles on the matter it's utterly impossible to figure out what exactly separates the Autocephalous Church from the Kiev Patriarchate. I just don't understand why the KP ever came to be and even enjoys so much more following than Autocephalous. I mean, I get why they would want to break away from the Moscow puppet but why not simply join the one breakaway church that actually has some tradition to it? What was the point in dividing the faithful even further, adding yet a third church to the mix, one that's pretty much indistinguishable from Autocephalous anyway? Was it just due to some power struggle and nothing more or some theological concerns?Jaro7788 (talk) 03:59, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jaro7788: Most likely it has to do with Filaret ambitions and the history of his shism.Smeagol 17 (talk) 09:57, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also see Ukrainian Autonomous Orthodox Church#History Smeagol 17 (talk) 14:01, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 16 December 2018[edit]

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Ukrainian Autocaphalous Orthodox Church → Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church – There is an error in the word Autocephalous Nicoljaus (talk) 08:20, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Except for, you know, it's not autocephalous, lol --193.34.160.162 (talk) 09:14, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is a self-name.--Nicoljaus (talk) 09:27, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator means Ukrainian Autocaphalous Orthodox Church is a clear typo. Wakari07 (talk) 11:31, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and I've done it myself. Sorry, guys!--Nicoljaus (talk) 12:51, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Wrong official website?[edit]

The link to the official website leads to a website that tries to sell refrigerators. 91.238.85.132 (talk) 10:47, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]