Talk:D'arcy Wretzky

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New Look[edit]

Regardless of whether or not it is intentional, or how it happened, D'arcy looks very different from how she looked in the 90's. Her hair and skin are (bleached?) white, her makeup seems different, and she, to me, appears to have had cosmetic surgery. CAUTION: This picture scared the pants off of me and made me sad. She looks more to me like Jocelyn Wildenstein than the stunning beauty she was some years past. Here is a picture of D'arcy with Mickey Rourke. Should/Can any mention be made of this? I suppose it is speculation as to the exact cause, because if I know tight-lipped D'arcy, there will be no interviews in which she states what has made her look this way. But, certainly, she DOES look this way, and there are an abundance of pictures and articles attesting to this fact. Perhaps like Marilyn Monroe (but, of course, to an infinitely lower degree), part of Wretzky's appeal laid in her sex appeal, so, in conclusion and my clearly very humble opinion, Darcy's apperance is very relevant to this article.

Oh, and one other little thing - My sister, a huge 'Pumpkins fan, has always told me that Darcy's secondary last name is Brown, ie, she called herself Darcy Wretzky Brown. Any truth to ThAT one, that anyone knows of? thanks all, "Yes...It's Raining" 03:48, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It seems I called it a "new look" when I know full well it's not new. She's been looking like this for quite some time now...it is, however, "new" since she fell out of the public eye. I don't have the pictures up, so I can't throw in any dates, but I do recall seeing her looking drastically different as early as 2007. Just wanted to throw that in; don't know if it really matters, but anyone finds it pertinent they will need to know, for research's sake, that this is not a 2011 occurence.

"Yes...It's Raining" 04:23, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think this is very encyclopedic. We should also consider WP:BLP.
Biographies of living persons (BLPs) must be written conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid: it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives, and the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered when exercising editorial judgment. This policy applies to BLPs, including any living person mentioned in a BLP even if not the subject of the article, and to material about living persons on other pages.[3] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.49.231.97 (talk) 09:25, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled[edit]

"She could have faced a felony charge, but was not formally charged with a crime. She successfully completed a court-ordered drug education program, and charges were dropped." If she wasn't charged, how could the charges be dropped? --68.160.151.209 01:27, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here are my notes on the Darcy verification:

D'arcy Wretzky (born May 1, 1968). She was born in South Haven, Michigan.

This data was confirmed by http://imdb.com/name/nm0942155/maindetails

Best known as D'Arcy, a bass guitarist and an original member of the alternative rock band Smashing Pumpkins. The band was founded in 1989 by Billy Corgan and James Iha, who recruited D'arcy for the band's first shows and demos.

Um, hard to dispute that, even I know that... But see Billy Corgan for an undisputed version of the same facts.

D'Arcy left the band in 2000 prior to the release of their final album and farewell tour.

This was also confirmed, but the sources I used (http://www.angelfire.com/sd/tdv/dreams.html and http://www.thei.aust.com/tssmusic1/darcy.html) mentioned she left in 1999 rather than 2000, so I made the change. One possible confusion is that the album released in 2000 contained work she recorded in 1999. Granted, it's a minor quibble.

Being able to fact check this article, I decided to remove the dispute. --SeanO 01:30, Sep 6, 2003 (UTC)

Nice job, Sean. The dispute originally occurred in the previous, mis-named article (Darcy Wretzky) and I believe the core of the dispute was over the birth year ('68 or '69) -- the allmusic site also gives '68 and I don't know where '69 came from but after someone else changed it to '68 a second time the person who disagreed put up the dispute notice. As to the year she left the band, there was a slack period between the recording and the release of the album which crossed the year boundary. She was clearly part of the band in 1999 and clearly out in 2000 -- which year she "left" is a Schrödinger's cat-like distinction.Jgm 13:20, 6 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I hate to bring up what looks like an old subject, but this page needs to be moved for two reasons. D'arcy has never gone by the name 'D'arcy Wretzky' and has always been credited to just 'D'arcy'. The page should be moved to D'arcy to reflect this (much like Cher, Prince (musician) etc. etc.). Also, whether it is correct or not, she has always spelt her name with a lower case 'a'. Let me know if you don't agree, otherwise I'll move the page in a few days. MrHate 03:59, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)
A move would be fine with me, you seem to be right about all that. Except on Gish it's spelled "D'Arcy" with the A capitalized, but oh well. Everyking 06:55, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
As another "D'Arcy", I think it might make sense to not have the page D'arcy automatically redirect to D'Arcy Wretzky. There are plenty of other D'Arcys out there... That's like having Bill redirect to Bill_gates
If another notable person that goes by "D'arcy" appears on Wikipedia, this page can be renamed "D'arcy (musician)" or "D'arcy (Smashing Pumpkin)". Until that time, the article should stay as D'arcy. As a side note, I might just mention that D'arcy doesn't redirect to D'arcy Wretzky but the other way around. This is because D'arcy is her professional/stage name (like Prince, Cher, Madonna etc.) Never has she been credited as D'arcy Wretzky. MrHate 23:59, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

Could somebody confirm that D'arcy played bass on Siamese Dream? I recall reading somewhere that Billy played all the strings as per his controlling nature. I could be wrong though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.105.9 (talkcontribs)

A lot of people say that she did then Corgan just re-did everything. A lot of this is hearsay and rumour. If she's credited then you'll have to assume she did, atleast, to some degree. Notether (talk) 09:12, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Both Corgan and Wretzky have said that he did most of the bass parts on Gish and Siamese. Corgan said, in 2007, that he and Jimmy actually account for "97%" of what you hear on any Pumpkins record. If you want sources I've got em. -Werideatdusk33 (talk) 21:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Someone drastically changed the first section of this article and it now claims that Thom Yorke fathered a child that D'arcy does not have. I'm going to remove this but someone please change things to look more complete if you could. Thanks. 66.3.122.9 10:38, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mugshot[edit]

Okay, whos the dumbass? The second picture is of Yelena Yemchuk, the principal photographer and ex-girlfriend of Corgan. I'm reverting. --MadameArsenic 09:52, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your source of this? This picture was uploaded to Wikipedia as a mugshot of D'arcy, not Yelena. If it is Yelena, what was she arrested on? -- Reaper X 23:30, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Either way, a mugshot isn't exactly a good choice for an identifying photo; similar to the current one featuring a bottle of vodka. Giovnni (talk) 18:41, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest I think the vodka photo is cute and she looks sweet, its a nice photo, i say it probably the best photo that will be legally available on wikipedia so it should stay. ΤΕΡΡΑΣΙΔΙΩΣ(Ταλκ) 11:38, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Her relationship to Kerry Brown[edit]

  • Why is there nothing in this article about her relationship to Catherine singer Kerry Brown? On that note, why is there no article for that band on Wikipedia (Catherine (band) is an article about a completely different group)? JuJube 19:20, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why does the Kerry Brown link lead to an American footballer's page? Kerry Brown was a musician. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.235.219.254 (talk) 13:24, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

suicide of ex-boyfriend[edit]

Her call-in to the radio station has to do with an ex-boyfriend killing himself in the last week. Details anyone? 24.24.244.132 (talk) 06:00, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Her picture in the article[edit]

Her picture is from rock am in 1994 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.189.216 (talk) 16:32, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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