Talk:Todd Rundgren

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Rundgren and Popular Culture[edit]

Someone removed everything from this list except for Rundgren's writing music for the American version of Red Dwarf. I restored the list since it provides good illustrations of the ways in which Rundgren has influenced popular culture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jxtrent (talk • contribs) 21:21, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One big missing aspect of the article is the social and historical context. The war in Vietnam and the draft permeated, saturated, engulfed every consideration throughout the youth of a person Todd's age but how he avoided the draft and the war is not even mentioned. For the entire Baby Boomer generation, the decision of how to deal with the draft was perhaps their first big adult decision, and for 58,000 young men it was so big a matter than it was life-ending. Yet, looking at this article, the issue, the historical context, simply doesn't even exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.233.118 (talk) 00:56, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Todd,have you been able to clean house and get me tickets 24.210.122.140 (talk) 23:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Multitracking[edit]

Is it really true that Stevie Wonder played all the instruments on his recordings before Paul McCartney did it in 1969? Or was it a couple of years later? I can neither confirm nor deny. Can you pinpoint when it happened? Richard K. Carson 09:16, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Not sure, but Les Paul, as in so many other things, had them all beat by several decades, multi-tracking on wax discs in 1947.

MTV Video[edit]

Isnt Pat Benatar's You Better Run the 2nd video to be played on MTV? --Taxidude 16:57, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes... See the First 62 Videos aired on MTV. --Mmathu 05:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Utopia[edit]

The article says in part: "... their 1983 Oblivion, which showed a cynical side of Utopia while mimicking the rock-umentary parody, This is Spinal Tap by sporting a black cover; ..."

How could the author claim that Oblivion mimicks This is Spinal Tap, when the latter album was released a year later? -- Mmathu 05:23, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's an easy one: incorrectly, that's how! Um.. why didn't you remove it? sigh...Eaglizard 00:31, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Liv Tyler Paternity Issue[edit]

On Liv Tyler's page, it says that she she believed Rundgren was her father until she was 9 years old; this page says she was 11 (Bebe Buell's page just indicates a nicely vague "late 80's" timeframe). Which is correct? --Xinpheld 13:37, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Buell's book "Rebel Heart" says that Liv met Stephen Tyler when she was 9, and that Bebe told Liv that Tyler was her father when she was 11. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by K8 fan (talk • contribs) 00:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Small Errors[edit]

1.) M. Frog was not Roger Powell in disguise but rather Jean-Yves Labat.

I have deleted that bit, as it is not correct. They are definitely two different people.K8 fan 23:20, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. A cruise around the Internet confirms that M Frog Labat was/is French artist Jean-Yves Labat. The best evidence is this from Rolling Stone Magazine reviewing a release called M.Frog:

M. Frog is the initial offering from a would-be French monk turned musician named Jean Yves Labat. Admittedly, France has never stood out as a major force in the rock music world, and M. Frog will do little to change this, but the album at least merits attention as a curiosity in a field rarely lacking such things. It is basically a synthesizer album, but Labat notates his musical scores not by note, but by an arrangement of multicolored squares placed side by side on a linear graph. Six full pages of this brilliant technologia are offered as inducement to sale, and they're quite neat to gawk at while listening to something else. The music itself runs the familiar gamut from synthijazz to the usual electronic mysterioso- cosmic space stuff - all of it competent but hardly innovative. If you're an electronic music freak, however, you might enjoy it, and it'll probably be in the delete sections of your record store within the year. Worth anything up to two bucks. 

   --Rolling Stone Magazine, #151

This information can be found on the web site for "The Band".


2.) "The Fool" guitar was not returned to Eric Clapton. Rundgren auctioned off the guitar sometime in the early 2000's. Where it resides today is unknown. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ludrum (talk • contribs) 14:37, 2 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Last I heard, someone in Sacremento, CA bought it.--Phyllis1753 (talk) 01:38, 2 February 2009 (UTC) 3.} This is an improper use of the word "fraught" and there are no context clues to reveal what is actually meant. "Having impressed Robertson with his work on the Winchester LP, Rundgren was then asked to engineer The Band's third album, Stage Fright, which was recorded in an often fraught series of sessions at the Woodstock Playhouse."[reply]

Duplicated information[edit]

Doing a bit of relaxing cleanup on a nice article about a guy I love, but now I'm bored and there's a bit more to do. So, would someone be so kind as to examine the two sections on 'Solo work' and 'Production work' and figure out how they should be merged or edited so that there's not so much redundancy and repeated repititions of the same thing? :) It's not a whole bunch, but it does hurt the article, imo. I would, but like I said, I'm burned out now. Maybe some other time, if no one else does...Eaglizard 00:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rundgren's songwriting skills[edit]

Someone should add a section of hit songs he has written for other artists. I came across one a while ago, but can't recall the title at the moment. I'll add it when it comes to me.

I added a mention of "Love Is the Answer", written by Rundgren for a Utopia album, which became a hit for England Dan & John Ford Coley. I really don't know of any others which were significant hits, but if there are any, do add. Brettalan (talk) 03:58, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Toddoff.jpg[edit]

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Citations & References[edit]

See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 09:23, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Other side of Roxy[edit]

I didn't find this album mentioned on the page- I think it should be added —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.17.140.189 (talk) 03:46, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The new Cars[edit]

I am removing a section that reads- "In early 2006, the new lineup played a few private shows for industry professionals, played live on The Tonight Show and made other media appearances before commencing a 2006 summer tour with the re-formed Blondie. The band sounded surprisingly unchanged from their previous incarnation, and many for the first time noted a similarity between Rundgren's vocals and Ocasek's; although Rundgren did not seem to have altered his style significantly to fit the songs originally sung by the uniquely-inflected Ocasek, the performances were nonetheless fresh and well-received. (In addition, Sulton performed Orr's songs with great credibility and sensitivity, the classic Drive being a highlight of the shows.)"

Its this part I have a problem with-"The band sounded surprisingly unchanged from their previous incarnation, and many for the first time noted a similarity between Rundgren's vocals and Ocasek's; although Rundgren did not seem to have altered his style significantly to fit the songs originally sung by the uniquely-inflected Ocasek, the performances were nonetheless fresh and well-received. (In addition, Sulton performed Orr's songs with great credibility and sensitivity, the classic Drive being a highlight of the shows.)"

1)This is not a neutral POV.-"The band sounded surprisingly unchanged from their previous incarnation" Who's POV is this? A fans?

2)"and many for the first time noted a similarity between Rundgren's vocals and Ocasek's;" Who is "Many"? What group of people make up "many"? And has it been proven that Rundgren's vocals and Ocasek's sound similar?

3)"uniquely-inflected Ocasek"-Sounds like it was written by a fan. It does not sound neutral.

4)"the performances were nonetheless fresh and well-received"-By who? Fans? Again,not neutral POV.

5)"Sulton performed Orr's songs with great credibility and sensitivity, the classic Drive being a highlight of the shows."-"great credibility and sensitivity" Again,sounds like it was written by a fan and is not a neutral POV.--70.157.34.244 (talk) 00:37, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rundgren in 1973 (image)[edit]

Image Rundgren in 1973 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Todd_Rungreen.jpg) looks more like from 1977. Иван Лычков (talk) 19:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure whether such belongs in the article, but I'd like to know what musicians think of runt. Who influenced runt? Who has runt influenced? How "big" or important is runt in pop history? These are the questions I often discover missing (and more importantly) in wikipedia articles on musicians, to my dismay. If I am not alone in this, wikipedia might consider making an exception to the strictness of objectivity rules on music artists. This music freak, @ least is often trying to gage whether a musician is a minor novelty, the best band they never heard of in their life, or just what exactly. Difficult to speculate, likely, but any help w/this sure would be appreciated.Slarty2 (talk) 00:37, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tone[edit]

Parts of the article sound informal and should be cleaned up.
Ulmanor (talk) 01:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Old image[edit]

I had added a recent image of Rundgren taken at one of the Rundgren Radio events, and for some reason someone replaced it with one that is at least 30 years old. Not very helpful for the purposes of identification. I know it was not flattering, but this is an encyclopedia, not a fan site. K8 fan (talk) 18:45, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sources don't belong in External links- they belong here[edit]

These sources do not ever belong in External links. I have moved the link farm from there to this talk page where they do belong. Warning: I didn't check them over, so be careful in choosing any references here. Thank you! --Leahtwosaints (talk) 06:36, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That is hardly a "link farm". Every single one of those link are relevant. Most are interviews of the artist in question, two are fan discussion sites, one is a band Todd Rundgren was in, one was to an on-line radio show devoted to Todd Rundgren, one is Todd Rundgren's guest professorship lecture at DePauw University - all of which you would know if you had bothered to actually look at any of the material, as you admit you did not. K8 fan (talk) 02:15, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect information[edit]

The Personal Life section has: 

Rundgren has three sons; Rex (born 1980) and Randy (born 1985) with his first wife Karen Darvin,[25] and Rebop with current wife Michele.

This is incorrect. Rundgren was never married to Karen Darvin. His first and only marriage was to Michele Gray on his 50th birthday. K8 fan (talk) 04:28, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism?[edit]

Someone at 84.238.30.216 has been deleting text from musician articles with no explanation. (The IP is in Denmark, and the edits are always around the same time of day... like when school gets out!) Perhaps someone familiar with the subject matter can look into this person's edits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.130.10.13 (talk) 00:55, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relation to Béla Fleck?[edit]

Does anyone know if Rundgren is kin to banjoist Béla Fleck because his mother's maiden name is Fleck. Country Girl 04:34, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

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Genres[edit]

There are 6 genres, which is above how much Wikipedia's template recommends. The genres are also referenced by All Music's sidebar which is considered unreliable. To be as general as possible I have changed them to rock, pop and experimental which covers most of the music he has made.

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Oops, Wrong Stereotype[edit]

I never realized that Alternative Tentacles's "Oops, Wrong Stereotype" was based upon Rundgren's Oops, Wrong Planet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.201.242.19 (talk) 18:30, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

Besides the Myers book and the AllMusic bio, are there any career-spanning biographies/web articles on TR? Or at least particular album reviews or something with comprehensive history. I haven't been able to find much. Also, any more on his songwriting or recording styles like the Sound on Sound article)? --Ilovetopaint (talk) 01:45, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Citation Span unusual formatting (gray text in line boxes)[edit]

Why is so much of the article formatted in line-boxed gray type, using "citation span|" as a template?

The history shows an initial edit using this unusual formatting (23:42, 15 November 2019) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Todd_Rundgren&oldid=926377604

- Colfer2 (talk) 15:17, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It makes it easier to see which parts of the article need citations. ili (talk) 20:00, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It makes it more difficult for the reader. Still, it motivated me to add a few sources and do a bit of fact checking, which I guess is the idea. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:47, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Todd’s real height is 6’1”.[edit]

Can someone correct please? Mahalo MICOGrayR (talk) 19:33, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The "first interactive album"[edit]

I find this statement dubious because in 1973, Albert Brooks released a comedy album called Comedy Minus One which contained a track in which the listener is meant to interact with the album using a script provided with the album. I think there were other examples of interactive albums predating No World Order. RockabillyRaccoon (talk) 04:46, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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