Talk:Euboean alphabet

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Clueless[edit]

A fragment of an entry that should be moved to some context, if one only knew... Clueless me, still clueless after reading this stub. --Wetman 04:22, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Old Italic versus Western Greek alphabet versus Cumaean[edit]

There seems to be some confusion over this. Was the Cumaean alphabet an Old Italic alphabet? A western Greek aplhabet? Is Old Italic the same as Western Greek?... FilipeS (talk) 21:08, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:46, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Phonetic values?[edit]

what are the phonetic values of the Cumae alphabet. 150.140.227.137 (talk) 06:56, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Problems[edit]

There are some problems with this page: there seems to be some ambiguity to what extent it is meant to cover (1) specifically and only the local script of Cumae, (2) the Euboean script in general, or (3) all "western" Greek alphabet forms (i.e. Kirchhoff's "red" alphabets) in general. Some statements are mixing up these levels, and thus become wrong. I believe that the best scope it should have is the common Euboean.

There are also a few problems through over-emphasizing the (dubious) "Euboean Kyme" (which seems to have been some obsession by a banned sockpuppeter a few years ago). Euboean Kyme had no known script. There are precisely zero known inscriptions from that place, because the place itself was never found, and may have been a mere village more than an actual city. The Euboean alphabet is the alphabet of the chief Euboean cities of Eretria and Chalkis, with some minor local variations characteristic of the Italian Kyme (Cumae).

I'm currently preparing a draft of a new, detailed Greek epichoric alphabets article (now at User:Future Perfect at Sunrise/sandbox). I think ultimately this article ought to be merged into a section of that, and links from elsewhere to "Cumae alphabet" mostly changed to "Euboean alphabet". Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:49, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Source removed[edit]

I've removed the listing of the following book from the "sources" section:

Helmut Engelmann. Die Inschriften von Kyme (=Inschriften griechischer Städte aus Kleinasien 5). Bonn, 1976. ISBN 3-7749-1418-4

This book apparently deals only with Kyme (Aeolis), whose dialect and alphabet seems to have been quite unrelated to the one this article is about. At least judging from the contents of the Engelmann edition mirrored online here, the inscriptions from Aeolian Kyme all seem to be of Hellenistic or later date, and in the standard Ionian alphabet. If the book also contains a discussion of the western Euboean/Cumaean alphabet, please point that out (I haven't had access to the book itself.) Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:11, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article needed?[edit]

Why is this article needed? There are many minor variants in the local (epichoric) ancient Greek alphabets. It seems much clearer to discuss them all in one article than to have separate articles for each one. --Macrakis (talk) 00:28, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Indeed, I agree. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:20, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

IE display problems?[edit]

Odysses restored this image [1] with a note saying it is "for the sake of users with incompatible IE versions". Can you please be more specific about what display problems you have with the rest of the article, and with what IE version? If the table above isn't displaying correctly for you, then we should do something to fix the table. It is still not a good solution to duplicate the content with a redundant image underneath. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:20, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]