Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (definite or indefinite article at beginning of name)

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Article for company names that end with "Corporation"[edit]

Should companies whose full name end with "Corporation" be written with an article (at least in the first sentence of the lead section)?

This is true for IBM ("The International Business Machines Corporation [...]"), but not so for Nvidia or Microsoft ("Nvidia Corporation [...]" and "Microsoft Corporation [...]"), for example.-- Maxeto0910 (talk) 00:48, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think we could make a general rule; usage is too varied. I'd look at reliable independent sources and follow them. SchreiberBike | ⌨  11:31, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Think of it like country names. Basic descriptions (like International Business Machines or United Kingdom) get "the", specific names (like Nvidia or China) don't. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 16:25, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Khajidha: That's a good general rule, but there are so many exceptions. Follow the majority of reliable independent sources. SchreiberBike | ⌨  23:26, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
True, but for a first approximation it's pretty good. User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 15:10, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

'The' dispute[edit]

I'm fine if my position about this is wrong, but if anyone would like to bring their thoughts to a discussion on how someone's nickname that starts with 'the' or 'The' should be handled in the midst of a sentence, it would be helpful. See Talk:Sonny Liston#Capitalizing 'The' in nickname in the midst of a sentence. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 21:53, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The clear answer is at MOS:THENAME, where an example given is:

*Use Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson not Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson

Hope that helps. SchreiberBike | ⌨  23:07, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It does help. Thank you. It helped me zero in on a more concise argument. At any rate, the issue at Sonny Liston is the other editor thinks they understand basic grammar better than me, and that therefore "The Big Bear" must have 'The' capitalized in the midst of a sentence. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 23:25, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]