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Identification problem[edit]

Could someone explain to me what is going on with this mountain. There appears to be different peaks with the same name, with different elevations in slighly different locations on/off the border. Could not figure out it using the coords. They might be off in both the article and on Peakbagger. I tried to straighten this all out in my last edit, but gave up. Hope I didn't make it worse.--Racerx11 (talk) 20:40, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The coordinates in the article now point to the peak called "Dinara", the one at 1830 m.a.s.l., AFAICT. What others are you referring to, those of the peak called Troglav or? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 21:04, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this article appears to be in a state of cofusion with the peak Troglav. Note these statements from the article:

"The Dinara Mountain is up to 10 km wide.

The highest peaks are Troglav ("Threehead", 1913 m) and Dinara (1831 m).[3] The peak called Dinara is shaped like a human head made of stone, and it happens to be the highest peak of Croatia."

The article also states an elevation 1913 m for Dinara in the infobox, which is Troglav's elevation.

On the whole the article gives the impression that there is a mountain named Dinara (1913 m), whch has two peaks: the highest peak of this mountain, named Troglav (1913 m); and a lower peak, also named Dinara (1831 m), which is the high point of Croatia.

Is this true? Or can I change the elevation to 1831 m and edit the rest of the article as if it is only about the high point in Croatia named Dinara?--Racerx11 (talk) 21:32, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't quite see the problem... The article is about the entire mountain, not just about any one peak. One peak is eponymous to it, yes, and that peak happens to have country-wide relevance, but the article nevertheless covers all peaks :) --Joy [shallot] (talk) 23:29, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that is precisely what was confusing me. I just wasn't sure and not knowing anything about the mountain going in, this was extremely confusing, as one would not expect a lesser, or should I say lower, peak to named the same as the mountain on which it is located. Do you not agree that this fact is both unusual and potentialy extremely confusing to a reader? I should point out that it was more so the sources I was checking that had me more confused than the article. Anyway thanks, you have confirmed what I was unsure about.--Racerx11 (talk) 23:48, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In the meantime I've proofread this again and rephrased it, adding an additional explanation to the infobox. Hope it's clearer now. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 13:33, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I should also mention that since Troglav has its own article, it caught me off guard that an article with the same name as the other peak, which is very notable as it is country high point, would not be about that peak. Why is there an article about a mountain; a separate article about that same mountain's highest point; and no article for the country high point located on that mountain? It's a very odd situation.--Racerx11 (talk) 00:00, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's simply because we depend on people to actually write articles :) If you want to write an article called e.g. Dinara (peak), that would be OK. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 13:33, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Shaped like a human head"?[edit]

The second sentence in the lede states that the mountain is "shaped like a human head made of stone". This claim is both un-sourced and redundant (what difference is there between something in the shape of "a human head", and something in the shape of "a human head made of stone"?) Furthermore, neither the photos in the article, nor those in the off-site articles referenced, seem to appear anything like a human head. If someone can't wikify the claim, I'll remove it. Bricology (talk) 16:42, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology[edit]

"Its Latin name is Adrian oros". Oros is Greek, and Adrian is the modern form for Hadrianus -Adrianós in Modern Greek.--Manfariel (talk) 14:01, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]