Talk:The Macallan distillery

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I'm changing the term "vintages" on this page to "expressions", which I believe to be more correct and would recommend throughout the pages dealing with whiskies. BradGad 04:09, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Random 2 cents? "expressions" is marketing weasel language, and pretty useless as a descriptor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.207.2.2 (talk) 00:16, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oak vs. Sherry[edit]

The Macallan is matured in oak sherry casks brought to the distillery from Jerez, Spain. Beginning in 2004 Macallan also introduced their Fine Oak series, with the whisky mellowed in oak barrels rather than sherry ones.

This is unclear to me. Sherry is not a kind of wood, and oak is not a type of drink, so the comparison is mixed. user:Shana 24 May 2006

Also, all sherry casks are made of oak... Notinasnaid 14:44, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The casks are made of oak that has previously housed sherry. The description you quoted is, I believe, taken straight off of the box that the cask strength comes in, and is how I've always seen cask descriptions written. 74.192.40.96 04:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speyside?[edit]

So, I know that MacAllan is made on the banks of the Spey, but they call themselves a Highland. I've seen a few other scotches of the Spey region do this, so I'm not sure if this is just some technicality, but MacAllan definitely has more of a Highland taste than any other Speysides I've had. So perhaps this page should list it as they do on the bottles. 74.192.40.96 04:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, the label on my Cask Strength says "Highland single malt scotch whisky" 173.188.196.23 (talk) 23:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have rewritten the LEAD of the article to clarify that the labels say one thing, and the website say something else. May have something to do with The Scotch Whisky Regulations 2009? At any rate, I hope my changes help to clarify things. Spectre9 (talk) 05:33, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Peat[edit]

I've read that part of the Macallan's unique flavor comes from the drying of the malt, which is accomplished without the use of peat, unlike others such as Laphroaig or Oban. I can site several sources, but where is the best place for this info? The lede? Micahmedia (talk) 01:37, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

update needed[edit]

the article needs to be updated. macallan no longer produces malts with specified age (you can ask just about any whisky shop to verify that) --87.172.219.139 (talk) 09:31, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect. Mutt Lunker (talk) 11:50, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

what exactly is supposed to contradict me there? i have received confirmation from every store i asked that they have been discontiued. perhaps i should have specified that im talking about the fine oak's not sherry oaks (since i dont drink crap) but the fact of the matter is, they're getting scarce and prices are jacking up like crazy everywhere. pray tell, why would this be happening and all of them be telling me the same thing if it wasnt true? the increasing prices and scarcity can be verified by literally everyone capable of using google search --87.172.219.139 (talk) 15:24, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The various "malts with specified age" listed on the Macallan site contradict you there, whether sherry oak (12, 18, 25, 30-year old) or fine oak (10, 12, 15, 17, 18, 21, 25, 30-year old). Your conclusions appear to be original research, contradicted by clear evidence but if you believe you can use google to find reliable sources to support your case, please go ahead. Mutt Lunker (talk) 17:10, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

you're seriously claiming that just because the malts are still listed on their site therefore they are still being produced? its not uncommon for distilleries to list malts on their site that are no longer being made, just check ardbeg's site for evidence to that effect. the malts being listed on their site doesnt change the fact that whisky dealers arent getting any more of them and that as a result prices are spiking and they're increasingly harder to get. as i said before, ANYONE who can use google search can confirm that. and if you're so convinced you're right, how about you try finding shops that list the 25 or 30 year old without an "out of stock" notice. if you're lucky you'll find 1 or 2 unlike the good dozen that still had it a year ago. and while you're at it, you may wanna ask them why they're not selling them anymore. you'll be surprised by what they tell you

addendum: here is a source that confirms this at least partially. they may not have mentioned the older ones, but it applies to them as well --87.172.219.139 (talk) 17:59, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:SYNTHESIS. None of this even approaches your statement that "macallan no longer produces malts with specified age". You may believe your evidence about increasing price etc. indicates this but until you find sources which specifically state this, it can't go in the article. Your source that Macallan do produce some malts which do not specify age is very much not the same thing as saying they no longer produce any which do. Mutt Lunker (talk) 18:39, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

im done dealing with you, you're obviously just trolling. my source? EVERY FUCKING WHISKY DEALER THERE IS, yet instead of asking so much as a single one you're sitting here like a creationist, ignoring evidence and claiming superiority. oh and that article very much did state that macallan REPLACED 10, 12 and 15 year olds with others that dont specify age. but im done here, take pride in being a contributing factor to wikipedia spreading misinformation --87.172.196.118 (talk) 09:25, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Calm yourself down. No matter how shrilly you proclaim it, conversations you have had, or conversations I have, may well indicate something worth investigating but are not in themselves reliable sources (please follow the link I also provided earlier to explain about citing things here). You may well be correct but so far you are synthesising facts, or (quite possibly unintentionally) misrepresenting them to advance your case. That three of their many age specified malts, from their core range, will be replaced by no-age statement ones is indeed specified in the citation, but very much not that "macallan no longer produces malts with specified age". It says nothing about the other age specified malts in the range and indeed the conclusion might be drawn that e.g. they will concentrate on age specification for older malts outside the core (I am not arguing this). However that conclusion, your conclusion or any other conclusion which is not specifically stated in a reliable source can not be added here as that would be "a contributing factor to wikipedia spreading misinformation". Mutt Lunker (talk) 13:56, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Source[edit]

Here. Spicemix (talk) 19:48, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Most expensive whisky[edit]

It says "citation needed" for the Guinness World Record. Well here's the citation, although you'll notice that the record has been broken twice since the one noted here. https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-expensive-whisky-whiskey-sold-at-auction#:~:text=The%20most%20expensive%20whisky%20sold,also%20a%20bottle%20of%20Macallan. 81.174.170.99 (talk) 21:40, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]