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please see the talk page for Ahmedabad. Talk:Ahmedabad --kunjan1029 06:36, 11 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for that split for Buddhism (20040302 17:51, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC))


Hello and Welcome! I hope you like the place. --mav 19:10 Jan 25, 2003 (UTC)


Regarding your comment on the naming convention for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints see Talk:Mormonism as a Christian religion -B


Wait. You're setting a precedent by putting see List of notable vegetarians on all the pages of people on that list. I have 2 objections.

  1. Does that does this now mean that we have to put see list of (Hindu, Christian, German, African-American, left-handed people, architects etc..) on article.
  2. The see also: is for lists of related articles, the word Vegetarian is not listed once on the Origen page for example Mintguy

Nice work with the human history page.. although, shouldnt there be an article containing perhaps an brief overview of the varied theories about human pre-history? - 'Vert

How about at Alternative views on the origin of mankind? --Mkweise 22:31 Feb 23, 2003 (UTC)

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If you have a better way of phrasing things, then rephrase them. There is no need to be offensive. -- Oliver P. 05:12 Mar 8, 2003 (UTC)


I agree with you (or what I think you were saying) regarding the list of words of disputed pronunciation or whatever the hell they changed it to. Even though English is an "open" language, there is a way to properly pronounce certain words that are often not pronounced the proper way. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but there you go... there's a point where political correctness goes overboard. Saying "some people prefer" this pronunciation of so-and-so is, to me, a promotion of ignorance. But what do I know, maybe every English dictionary ever written was wrong when they stated "February" phoenetically as "feb-ROO-airy".

Anyway, once an article's title has been changed any protests seem to fall on deaf ears. It seems like this article's title was modified without any much-needed discussion. I shrug indifferently. -- ヤギ

No discussion is needed for NPOVing. NPOV is the Wikipedia way. If you don't like it, go to Internet-Encyclopedia. -- Oliver P. 05:38 Mar 8, 2003 (UTC)
It is not POV to say "this word is pronounced this way". There is a correct way to pronounce words, and an incorrect way to pronounce words. Some words can be disputed, but in the case of dispute generally both uses are acceptable (such as "Antarctica"). The use of nucular, though, is generally regarded as incorrect (especially among people who speak fluent English) because it is a mutation of pronunciation of other -cular words such as particular and molecular. Some words are beyond dispute, but it makes no sense to make two pages... just combine them to avoid conflicts between lists, and for ease of use. Make a horribly convoluted title for the page as well, if you must. -- ヤギ
Nonsense. That's like saying that Cuba MUST be pronounced KOO-ba, or KYOO-ba, but KYOO-ber is wrong. It's called dialect, son. -- Zoe

LOL!  :-) -- Zoe

Don't encourage childishness, Zoe. Your behaviour is not at all fitting for a collaborative project. -- Oliver P. 08:35 Mar 8, 2003 (UTC)

I didn't mean you, Mkweise, I mean't Oliver, who seems to have a need to tell people how they should speak. -- Zoe

Well, I'm the one who started the article that has mutated into the mess everyone's now at the verge of nukular war over. Mkweise 09:01 Mar 8, 2003 (UTC)
Zoe, as far as I can recall, I have never told anyone here how they should speak. If you think I have, please cite an example. -- Oliver P. 09:09 Mar 8, 2003 (UTC)
You don't have any kids, I take it? I taught mine to speak proper English, and given the opportunity would love to do the same for my President who, after all, represents my country to the rest of the world. Mkweise 09:15 Mar 8, 2003 (UTC)


Cite for ancient sourdough from http://www.sourdo.com/book.htm

"the organisms of sourdough that produced man's bread for 5,000 years."

--Dr.Ed Wood

Cite for wheat in ancient egypt from http://teaching.ucdavis.edu/nut120a/0032.htm

"G. Regarding cereals-grains

1. Wheat and barley were the cereals used most commonly. Indeed, during the Greek and Roman period of Egyptian history, Egypt was the grain producing breadbasket of the ancient Mediterranean. Even today, one may travel westward from Alexandria along the coast towards Libya, and in springtime, see the hundreds of ancient mounds that represent ruined villages where cultivators were housed; the irrigation system, cisterns are still in place and today, some of these are used by settled Bedouins. '

--Darrell


Please insert your additions to the list at British sitcom chronologically as best you can. I'd have done it myself, but I'm not familiar with most of the ones you added. Mkweise 18:57 Mar 21, 2003 (UTC)

I will where possible- some are really little more than dim childhood memeories tho... quercus robur 17:31 Mar 22, 2003 (UTC)

Hi Mkweise,

Sorry that I changed those links, I confused [[animal fat|animal]] with [[animal|animal fat]]. - Patrick 16:12 Apr 18, 2003 (UTC)

Hehe...I've gotten used to it by now, but the order of arguments in piped links has always struck me as counter-intuitive. Mkweise 16:21 Apr 18, 2003 (UTC)

The nav nested table in Yttrium looks really nice but there is a problem; Where should I put the locator image when I create it? The format of the old nested table was built with the image in mind. It is just that some users have been creating the nav link tables much faster than I have had time to create the images needed to make the tables work right. See Lithium for an example. --mav


I noticed you replaced the -- in Artificial meat with —s. Please don't do that. I agree it looks slightly better, and it might be a worthwhile addition to the software to render "--" within text as such, but it makes the text slightly harder to edit for newbies not familiar with HTML entitites. To them, it just looks like random gibberish. Let's work by the principle of least astonishment wherever possible. --Eloquence

I find using '--' for dashes unacceptably ugly. I formerly used ' - ', until the discussion at meta:Automatic_transformation_of_hyphens_and_dashes, from which it appears that the Wikipedia consenus is to use the HTML entities for now. Mkweise
You call that a consensus? Wow, you have an interesting definition! :-) Most people are opposed to messy wikitext, and we can easily fix the "--"s at some point in the future. --Eloquence 11:27 May 8, 2003 (UTC)
Well, go bug the coders to implement '--' as shorthand for '—'; once that's done—assuming I haven't died of old age by then—I'll be happy to use it. Meanwhile, I'll do what's necessary to have correct punctuation in the articles I edit. Mkweise 11:38 May 8, 2003 (UTC)
I am one of the coders. Give me money and I'll hack it for you :-). Meanwhile, I'll do what's necessary to avoid messy HTML in articles I edit. --Eloquence 14:33 May 8, 2003 (UTC)

Good day, Mkweise. Using the 'Move this page' option, I attempted moving the article Lamaism to Tibetan Buddhism but this did not work since the latter already exists (I tried temporarily deleting the content). Perhaps I did something wrong but I believe this is only for new articles. Any ideas? Usedbook 01:39 22 May 2003 (UTC)

If the destination article has ever contained a "real" article (as opposed to just a redirect), only a sysop can execute the move. For mere mortals such as you and me, that means requesting a sysop move at wikipedia:village pump. Mkweise 01:46 22 May 2003 (UTC)
P.S. When merging two articles, there is no way to preserve both edit histories. In that case, the shorter article should be merged into the longer one?as you have correctly done with Lamism/Tibetan Buddhism. Mkweise 01:53 22 May 2003 (UTC)
I understand now. I am changing all wiki links from Mahayana Buddhism to Mahayana manually (and for Theravada). If I may ask though, why should we preserve the page history? Do not most contributors move pages manually? Usedbook 02:13 22 May 2003 (UTC)
I used to think so myself, until someone told me what I told you earlier tonight. I assume the reason preservation of edit histories is desired is so that the origin of all content can be traced. (Ask at wikipedia:village pump if you want to know the official answer.) As for changing all the links to a moved page?while that certainly doesn't hurt, it isn't really necessary as long as the old location remains a redirect page (as opposed to becoming a disambiguation page.) Mkweise 02:43 22 May 2003 (UTC)
OK, I might be about to mke a spectacular fool of myself here, but this should work. Tannin 02:46 22 May 2003 (UTC)
Done. See the Village Pump for the details though. Tannin

Isn't mandate stronger than that? It's not just representing, but following instructions (mandamus=we must). A union delegate can be mandated to vote a particular way on a motion at conference, whereas an American congressman or British MP is a representative, and can vote as he sees fit. jimfbleak 20:29 22 May 2003 (UTC)

It's an interesting subject; please add what you know to the article. The word mandate definitely is used as a noun in the sense I described?e.g. when distiguishing an official who carries the mandate of the people (is directly elected) from one who is indirectly elected or appointed.
As for representatives, well...if they vote as they see fit they're not really representing their electorate, are they? Mkweise 20:49 22 May 2003 (UTC)

Spice Girls don't belong on the Scoville scale, at least in my opinion. Don't care how un-spicy they are. It was good for a laugh though --Jim 18:30 26 May 2003 (UTC)


Radharani Married to Krishna is narrated in Bhagwatham. Their marriage is not coming under Traditional marraige act of Hinduism... It is a oersonal marriage called Kandharva Vivaha!- chellabm@yahoo.com

I'd been wondering how long it would take for someone to find my easter egg :-) Mkweise 19:55 26 May 2003 (UTC)
I was surprised it took me as long as it did. The fact you made a useful edit immediately after that one through me off for a while. Jim 16:59 4 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Good day Mkweise! I was just curious as to where you found those two images (for the Mahavira and Jainism articles). I'd be interested in adding images to the other Eastern religions aswell. Thanks and be well. Usedbook 23:27 3 Jun 2003 (UTC)


Just a note of thanks for your contributions to the articles on Scientology. This subject is one of the best examples I know of where truth is stranger than fiction -- a lot stranger! --Modemac 02:00 15 Jul 2003 (UTC)


The words "sexed up" are not mine; they are the words of the BBC, from the original report by Andrew Gilligan. You will find that they are the words consistently used by all of the media when covering this story. So I'm going to revert your change. Mintguy 11:24 20 Jul 2003 (UTC)


Gujarati digits aren't completely different. Try this: Write the Devanagari digits in one color, and the Gujarati in another, on slips of paper, and hand them to someone who's never seen them before to match up. I bet he'll get all ten right. -phma


About your edit to Aromatic compound -- there is also a page aromatic hydrocarbon. The text you just added makes me think these two should be merged. (and there's aromatic too which doesn't serve much purpose]]!) You sound like you know more about this than I do; could you handle it? thanks -- Tarquin 22:06, 16 Aug 2003 (UTC)


Hi, I wanted to ask you about Jains. I'm happy about the current Vegetarianism article, so no need to respond if you're busy. I'm curious, though, in what way ancient Jains were aware of microorganisms, as you suggest they were on Talk:Vegetarianism. Were they able to see them under microscopes or culture them to visible colonies, or something else that we today would accept as scientific proof? Did they just believe in microorganisms as a matter of faith, i.e. without clear evidence?

Thanks, Zashaw 04:00, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)


Re Trojan War - I'm sorry but that just isn't true. I don't have time to offer you sources at the moment, but I will get back to it later. Adam 23:56, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)


Why did you move Mandarin Language?


Hi,Please don't change the first line of Hinduism without discussing on the Talk Page. See my comments in the edit summary. Please don't start an edit war. All LIVING Hindus in the world refer to their religion as Hinduism only. There is no recent development at all in Hinduism, there is development ALWAYS. It has always been changing - Dravidian Gods + Aryan Gods+ Buddha as Avatar of Krishna+ so many innumerable variations today, incuding fundamentalist Hinduism. So to call it Sanatana Dharma based on how it originated is incongruous. Knowledge is constructed based on changing meanings attached to words, there is no absolute point in time when meaning is frozen. Then all words in the world have to be used in the sense of their first utterance and usage. Please consider all this. Don't change well accepted facts without going into a discussion and proving otherwise. KRS 15:11, 24 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Hi, have you seen my comments on the Village Pump? Wikipedia is a collective effort and hence requires collaboration among the various contributors. I have addressed you twice with reference to your specific edits, once in your Talk page and once in the Talk:Hinduism page. Don't you want to respond? A neutral person has said that the same few sentences kept getting edited without discussion. Why don't we start a discussion in the talk page?
If you are not amenable to this, I am leaving the page alone for a week. Then I will take up the same issue again. Definitely you seem to be knowledgeable, but then you also seem to have a POV that you want to push. I hope you too will reconsider your edits after a break. KRS 06:35, 25 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I did see your comments, but have been busy preparing sweets etc. for Dipavali. I'll give the matter some more thought on Monday. Mkweise 08:23, 25 Oct 2003 (UTC)

See Talk:Knot_(nautical), re: your recent edit, Stewart Adcock 18:45, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)


I object to your moving Work (physics) to Mechanical work. I was actually just about to perform the reverse move when I discovered your previous action. There are other types of work, such as electrical work (energy lost by a system due to pushing electrons through a circuit). -Smack 00:16, 10 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Have you anything to say to this? --Smack 18:08, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Electrical work can be reduced to mechanical work, since it involves moving bodies (electrons or ions) against a force (electrical field). Additionally, the term "work" is not usually used outside of Newtonian mechanics - in other fields of physics, one generally speaks of energy rather than work.
That said, I don't feel strongly enough on the matter to make a fuss if you and others prefer "Work (physics)". Mkweise 23:09, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hello MKWeise, with regards to guru Not only Christians use this definition. Some Christian scholars even accept the word guru for Jesus. I'll do a revert to the previous version. If u don't believe me then take a look at the Sarlo's guru ratings. Andries 09:09, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)


Hello, MKweise, you wrote that sat guru means teacher of truth but I always thought that it meant true guru, i.e. the opposite of fraud guru. Do u have any references for your assertion?Andries 18:57, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that the word satguru predates false gurus. One dictionary I have says that a satguru is "one who is able to lead others along the true spiritual path" - but I'm not too happy with that wording, since Hinduism acknowledges that other paths (even those of other religions) may also be true. Mkweise 23:09, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)
False gurus are very old. One is even described in the Panchatantra, an old classic book from Kashmir.Andries 18:29, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)
What I mean is that, arguably, false gurus are a phenomenon of Kali yuga. Mkweise 21:32, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

By the way, where is your evidence for your assertion that all sects of Hinduism say that a living guru is necessary. To be honest, I don't believe at all that you are right in this case. Besides, how can you state this as a fact. Have you studies ALL sects of Hindsuism? If not, how many have you studied? Andries 18:32, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

The belief in the necessity of a guru is one of the defining traits of hinduism - see for example http://www.swaminarayan.org/faq/bapsgeneral.htm#1 or http://www.himalayanacademy.com/books/dws/lexicon/s.html (scroll down to "Satguru"). Mkweise 21:32, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Mkweise, thanks for the reference but I think the followers of Shirdi Sai Baba don't agree that one needs a living guru. Andries 21:47, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I said all Hindu denominations; Sai Baba Sansthan is, by their own account, a universalistic movement. From http://www.shrisaibabasansthan.org/saibaba/saibaba_introduction.asp:
Devotees of all faiths find their meeting point in Sai and people from all communities and all walks of life are united by the great love and reverence Baba inspires in them. Baba had great regard for His Hindu devotees and their Gurus [...]
Mkweise 22:07, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Mkweise, with regards to guru again. Why did ur remove the section 'original and literal meaning? I found it very useful. I reverted it. Andries 21:29, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Didn't, I just removed the section heading above the intro paragraph since it's standard wikipedia practice to have at least one paragraph before any section headings. Mkweise 21:36, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)



If you're interested in the spice stuff, and need something to do, you can help convert pages linked here List of herbs and spices to the template: Wikipedia:WikiProject Herbs and Spices. Even just copying and pasting the Template to the /Temp page of all herbs and spices is a big task. dave 05:19, Feb 22, 2004 (UTC)


Halvah vs. Halva[edit]

Before going too far with moves and renames, I note that AHD4 online has an entry under "halvah," no entry under "halva," and describes "halva" as a variant spelling of "halvah." So... why do you say "Halva" is the more frequent spelling? Dpbsmith 21:40, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Google shows that halva is by far the most common spelling, and halvah isn't even 2nd:
halva: 182k google hits
halwa: 36k
halvah: 32k
helva: 14k
Halvah is the Jewish spelling, and may at times be used to refer specifically to the Jewish (heavily sesame-flavored) variety. Mkweise 21:54, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

You are probably right re: Haberenos. They are known as "hot peppers" here - for example in Hot Pepper Sauce. Maybe US vs Caribbean? I dunno. Secretlondon 22:41, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)

So in British English hot pepper refers specifically to the habanero variety? I did not know that. Here in the US, hot pepper is synonymous with chile pepper, the most commonly available varieties being the finger-shaped Thai (long and red) and Indian (short and green) ones. Mkweise 23:03, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Not really - I live in area of London with a large caribbean population. "Hot pepper" is used to describe the ones in the photo. I've looked them up on the link from Chilli pepper - they actually appear to be Scotch bonnets. It would make more sense than Mexican ones. See Talk:Chilli pepper for details and links to photos.Secretlondon 23:06, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi! I nominated you for adminship. Do you accept? Cautious 22:49, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, I am honored...although I keep making plans to spend less time here, they invariably prove futile anyway—LOL. Mkweise 23:01, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Sam Spade 05:16, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Sysop[edit]

Congratulations! You are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. Good luck. Angela. 22:40, Mar 31, 2004 (UTC)

Rollback on main page[edit]

Sorry about rolling you back on the main page, but we really don't want to 'celebrate' April fools. As it is, we're going to be busy enough reverting all the other stuff people are going to do. →Raul654 03:54, Apr 1, 2004 (UTC)

I was merely following standard policy...the main page is currently listed on VfD (and the tally's not looking good, either.) Mkweise 03:59, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Just stopped by to thank you for listing the otherwise overlooked item on Current events. :-D - IMSoP 14:52, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Mikkalai 21:56, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Gdansk[edit]

I did check the Talk page. Folks were talking... and? What exactly were you wanting me to check for? Our policy suggests that pages should only be protected for a short period of time, and doesn't say anything about waiting for complete consensus before unprotecting. My approach is to unprotect, and wait and see. If a severe edit war breaks out, it can always be reprotected: no major harm done. Martin 00:11, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)

The harm that concerns me is that premature unprotection undermines the consensus process. I think it's a bad idea to unprotect a page while constructive discussion of the issues that led to the edit war is going on, as that's likely to cause people to stop talking and go back to reverting each other's edits.
Also, please note that two admins (user:John Kenney and myself) are watching the talk page and are eager to unprotect as soon as a consensus develops. Mkweise 01:19, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Request for comments[edit]

If you have evidence or any remarks to add at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Nico, please do so.Halibutt

Gay Nigger Association of America is being censored by Adam Bishop, but the old version cannot be recovered because the page is protected. Do us Gay Niggers a favor and revert it please :) Goat-see 21:40, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Sorry, your article has been deleted because it was deemed to be self-promotion/vanity. Try adding a section about your organization at Slashdot trolling phenomena, I don't think there'd be any strong objection to having it covered there. Just be sure to avoid any phrasing that could be construed as promotion, or someone is sure to come along and remove the whole section again. Mkweise 21:52, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)

simple request[edit]

Could you please refrain from making fun of other users. Thank you. Kingturtle 04:11, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)

What are you talking about, this? Mkweise 09:48, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
No, this. Thanks. Kingturtle 17:12, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
There I was just making fun of the quickpoll process and the way it's being used, not personally attacking any particular user. Don't you find it amusing that edit war veterans are essentially unaffected by quickpolls, but everyone was so up-in-arms about user:I_am_sexy?

City names[edit]

from Kiev: "...articles go under the current official name of cities, alright?)"

That isn't actually the standard - see for instance Venice. Cities go under the name in English first. I think Kiev has a good reason to stay at Kiev. Rmhermen 14:24, Apr 9, 2004 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant to say "...current official English spelling...", which in this case is most definitely "Kyiv". The former spelling is still quite common, but only in documents written prior to the name change and by authors who don't know better. Mkweise 15:00, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Would appriciate your vote at Naming policy poll (Kyiv vs. Kiev) at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_policy_poll --Inhvar 12:56, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Sock Puppetry[edit]

Assuming it is true that you created the sock puppet account, I wanted to tell you that I think such behavior is unprofessional. Honestly, I thought you must be a high school kid, but I see that above you discuss teaching your kids, and your contributions look good, and you seem to be a serious and responsible person. So please, in the future, do me a favor... don't engage in games to make your points, just state them forthrightly. If someone was making an absurd claim about the word 'troll' in usernames, just state your opposition, explain why, and you'll be listened to of course. Jimbo Wales 03:04, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Yes, I am generally a serious person, but occasionally I do take some time off from being serious. I realize I could just as easily have made my point the conventional way, the alternative just seemed too funny to pass up. If Telgur annoyed more than he entertained, I am truly sorry as that was not my intention. Mkweise 15:18, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)

free zone[edit]

Discussion moved to talk:Free Zone

How to transwiki?[edit]

I seem to be doing something wrong moving pages to wiktionary, because when I complete a move to transwiki:Wiktionary, it just stays there as though there were nothing "special" about that move target. What am I doing wrong? Mkweise 02:32, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)

It should be Transwiki:page title, not Transwiki:wiktionary. Also, it should be on the wiktionary: site, not on Wikipedia. Have you read m:transwiki or was it unclear even after seeing that? Once moving it to wiktionary (via cut and paste until 1.3 is released), you should log it at transwiki and wiktionary:transwiki. Angela. 07:32, Apr 15, 2004 (UTC)
Yes, I had read m:transwiki but assumed that was outdated info since it said transfers must be done manually but I had ready elsewhere that a seamless transwiki system was in place. I guess it's easiest to just wait for v1.3; after all, dicdef articles in Wikipedia don't really hurt anyone. Mkweise 17:52, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Waste Vegetable Oil[edit]

I was wondering if you would be able to give me the references that you used to come up with the WVO volumes that were posted in this article. Mainly, references for these quotes:

'As of 2000, the United States were producing in excess of 11 billion liters (0.011 km³) of waste vegetable oil annually'

'Waste vegetable oil has a stable market value of approximately USD 0.40 per gallon (USD 117.58 per metric ton) as of 2003'

I would also like to attribute the article to someone, if I quote the numbers in the little research paper I am writing. How should I reference the WVO article? Thanks! eayres@bren.ucsb.edu

Chernobyl vs Chornobyl[edit]

In February, you moved Chernobyl to Chornobyl. The naming policy poll (conducted about a month ago) says that it should be at Chernobyl (Chernobyl gets 20x as many google hits as Chornobyl), so I have moved it back. I just wanted to give you a heads up. →Raul654 22:02, Jun 21, 2004 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that. All I can say is your poll doesn't make right what's clearly wrong. Mkweise 12:24, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Did I miss something?[edit]

Where'd you get off to? You're missed, and I hope you won't be gone long. Until you come back, have a lovely time where you are, and I'll look forward to seeing your name in RC sometime in the future. Jwrosenzweig 22:16, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I'm still around, but I'm currently on a break from editing after getting somewhat frustrated with arguing the same points over and over again. Mkweise 12:24, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Energa Gedania Gdansk[edit]

Could you unprotect the Gdansk page, please? There seems to be no dispute at the moment at the Talk:Gdansk page and I would like to add the following entry:

Thank you, EBL 20:15, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

If and when you're around, could you please take a look at Talk:Psilocybe cyanescens? Thank you. Lupo 10:34, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

mahabahrata date of authorship[edit]

I think it was you who gave the date of mahabharata as 1316BC on the epic poetry page. that seems very precise. What is the evidence for that date. Is it generally accepted, or is it a traditional date>?

1316 BC is when the Great War described in the Mahabharata took place, based on astronomical data contained within the text. That dates the origin of the epic, even if (as some claim) the events related are partially fictional. It is unclear, however, when the epic was first put in written form. Mkweise 17:12, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Bali Raj[edit]

Hi, you moved Bali (demon) to Bali Raj. I'm not aware of a concept called Bali Raj. Can you point me to any discussion/references which made you make the move. Jay 06:31, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Try a google search for "Bali Raj" or the alternate spelling, "Bali Raja". "Raj" means "King", and Bali is the King of the underworld. To characterize him as a demon is somewhat imprecise (though not entirely incorrect) - but the main reason to move it was that the (ugly) use of parentheses for disambiguation should be avoided where possible. Mkweise 17:29, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing[edit]

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. Ram-Man (comment) (talk)[[]] 14:40, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

I've responded to your comment on my talk page. Ram-Man (comment) (talk)[[]] 13:30, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)

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Thanks for uploading Image:Swaminarayan_Maharaj.jpg. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much, Intangir 05:00, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Also:

The first image shows a 19th century painting. I'm not sure whether the scan/photo should be considered a derivative work subject to its own copyright term, or in the public domain like the painting itself. The birth chart images are screen shots taken from copyrighted software. Mkweise 23:38, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Corn flake[edit]

I don't agree with your moving Corn flakes to Corn flake. Corn flakes are rarely, if ever, refered to as singular entities, and as such are an exception to the general naming guideline. olderwiser 21:53, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC)


Hi. Since you have edited on pages with disputes about the names of Polish/German locations, I would invite you to vote on Talk:Gdansk/Vote to settle the multi-year dozens-of-pages dispute about the naming of Gdansk/Danzig and other locations. The vote has two parts, one with questions when to use Gdansk/Danzig, and a second part affecting articles related to locations with Polish/German history in general. An enforcement is also voted on. The vote has a total of 10 questions to vote on, and ends in two weeks on Friday, March 4 0:00. Thank you -- Chris 73 Talk 03:06, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed that the above image is properly licensed but lacks any notice of where it came from and/or who created it. Please add the source so that it can be used also at WikiCommons. Regards, Thuresson 02:26, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Image:Tseliot.jpg[edit]

Hello, I am not an expert of English speaking coutries law, but I would like to know what allowed you to mark the image public domain? I've got some doubts since, for instance, in Poland the law says that the copyright expires after 70 years since the death of a photographer and Emil Otto Hoppé died in 1972. I have always been thinking that this (or a very similar one) rule holds in other countries. Alx-pl 15:39, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

See http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/training/Hirtle_Public_Domain.htm . Mkweise 17:52, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Scat[edit]

Hi. I disagree with your move of "Scat singing" to "jazz scat", as I commonly hear the former term and rarely the later. I also note that only one page linked to that later title, so I went ahead and moved it back. If you think the page should be at "Jazz scat", please explain why on Talk:Scat singing. Thanks, -- Infrogmation 04:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

National football teams[edit]

The naming convention for national football team pages is "Country name national football team". ed g2stalk 11:57, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

In England, the team is always referred to as "England", or "the England team", and almost never "the English team". "England" is the name of the team and it is a national football team. We use "Manchester City football club" instead of "Mancunian Metropolitan football club". This also helps us avoid problems with teams where the adjective is not the best way to describe the team; to quote from talk:England national football team:
"It also makes the pages easier to follow if all the international team pages take their national name rather than the associated adjective - what do you call someone from New Zealand, anyway? How do you distinguish between the Republic of Congo and the Democratic Republic of Congo without using the name of the country? What about ethnic Croats who play for Serbia and Montenegro or ethnic Mongolians who play for China - is the best way to refer to the team really as Serbian or Chinese? Finally there is the potential problem of references like American football team. All very confusing unless as much ambiguity is removed as possible.
So that's why... - Madw 16:36, Apr 22, 2004 (UTC)"
I know this system seems somewhat counter-intuitive at first, but I hope this has cleared things up. ed g2stalk 21:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on Swaminarayan. I think that the version you wrote on April 21 [1] is generally better than what was there before. An anonymous editor, user:83.67.4.89 (and other IPs) apparently disagrees. It would be helpful if you too could particiapte in a discussion on the talk page there so that a consensus can be found. I have no special interest in this matter and not knowledge of the facts of the matters. I got involved simply because of the repeated attempts, for whatever reason, of an anon to delete all references to BAP from the article. Even an ignorant editor like me could tell that such an outcome probably wasn't in the interest of making the best article. Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Cheers, -Willmcw 06:53, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)

Pardon, I see that you already have commented on the talk page. Thanks. -Willmcw 06:56, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)

Chennai revert[edit]

Please explain why you blanket-reverted my edits to Chennai. I have switched to my version because you didn't provide a reason for the revert, and because the version that you reverted to has **triplicated** the page content. -- Brhaspati\talk/contribs 23:28, 2005 May 8 (UTC)

I should probably mention that 68.85.175.104 has made edits that either praise Chennai (POV), or claim Bangalore to be smaller than what that article says (POV again) or engage in content-duplication (borderline vandalism). Another user whose edits I deleted was 203.199.50.16, whose entire edit history shows a strong inclination to start extremely futile Chennai-vs-Bangalore size comparison contests, and who has been reverted multiple times on the Bangalore page. I therefore find it puzzling that you should revert my edits, especially given the history of my earlier edits to Chennai. -- Brhaspati\talk/contribs 00:03, 2005 May 9 (UTC)

The triplication of material looks like a database hiccup to me; certainly wasn't intended anyway. I was reverting this edit, because it made the article less informative. Mkweise 02:00, 9 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Do you want to explain your sudden and unconsulted move to The Black Death on the talk page? This page has a large group of contributors who try to reach concensus before sudden changes. I expect several editors will have something to say! WBardwin 19:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Why did you just move this article? Your move was completely against policy. But even more egregious, you did not discuss the move at all. It was completely out of the blue, as you've never been a contributor, nor have there ever been any talks about moving it. Please move it back to the original article immediately. --Dmcdevit 19:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and in my hasty response, I didn't notice the hastier response above. Here's the evidence to suppot WBardwin's expectation :) --Dmcdevit 19:51, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, our general policy is to omit articles from titles. In this case, however, the inclusion or omission of the definite article changes the meaning of the phrase: "The Black Death" refers to the historical epidemic and the period of European history characterized by it, whereas "Black Death" is simply a synonym for bubonic plague. While we have many policies governing article naming, the prime directive remains is that the name of an article should identify its subject.
Also, note that this article had originally been started at The Black Death and then moved to Black Death by cutting-and-pasting rather than the move command, requiring a delete-move-undelete in order to reconstitute the article history. As for my talk page, LOL...the dozen or so cases where someone objected are somewhere around 1% of all the page moves I've performed over the years. No big deal, as it's just as easy for anyone to move back if called for by consensus. Mkweise 14:55, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
(Replies have been made on the article's talk page. --Dmcdevit 19:40, 26 May 2005 (UTC))[reply]

I agree with the name change, but are you going to go through the article and change the appropriate phrases also, and also the related categories and articles too? Talrias (t | e | c) 16:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ayyavazhi[edit]

Greetings.

I have been doing some copy-editing on the Hindu faith Ayyavazhi. The material could use some expert cleaning, someone aware of the Hindu faith. The pages are several, and the stories are many:

Steven McCrary 19:17, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

Mr Zappa[edit]

Hey friend... Thought you might be interested in the project at wikiquote. Frank Zappa FYI. Sveden 23:28, 4 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Disambiguating Akshardham[edit]

Hi,

Some changes were made by an anonymous user User:83.67.4.89 in the Akshardham page.(probably to remove the notion of akshardham temple)

The Akshardham has different perceptions in popluar media and in religious philosophy.

I have included a link to the Akshardham (Philosophy) in the akshardham disambiguation page called Akshardham Temple and redirected Akshardham to that page.

To give proper justice to philosophical meaning, the link for philosophy has been placed above temple links

Uday 06:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you have a look at the talk page of Ancient oil lamp, and give your openion, Thank you --Thameen 09:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments on the Ancient oil lamp article. --Thameen 21:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Thanks,

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Nice word-choice![edit]

Hi, Mkweise. Just wanted to say thanks for replacing "form" with "system" in the definition of Homeopathy. I've looked at and argued about that definition a lot, and never felt that "form" was satisfying, but I didn't see a better alternative. "System" pegs it perfectly. Also, I very much appreciate your comment about respectful neutrality here. Indeed a number of people have used the Homeopathy page and especially its talk page as a forum for humiliating people who favor homeopathy. …Just saw that you fixed the quotes/italiics, too. Wow, fast synergy between editors! Editing Wikipedia has just become fun again! :) —Ben Kovitz (talk) 03:35, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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source?[edit]

made an entry regarding sources on the hindu units of time for you. source of truti division? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimifoil (talkcontribs) 06:15, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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My song, "Tools"[edit]

You just stay around to keep the tools, you just stay around to keep the tools! You think that we're all fools, you just stay around to keep the tools! Making minute edits every year, you make minute edits every year! We can see it's very clear, you make minute edits every year! Users such as yourself who make a significantly low amount of edits just to keep your administrative tools sicken me and many others. Just give up the tools already!!! What are you holding on to them for anyways!! What a selfish thing to do!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.35.97.209 (talk) 02:03, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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