Talk:Roman Abramovich

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Chelsea FC page. Mistake in second paragraph.[edit]

The second paragraph states that since the Abramovich takeover, Chelsea are the second most successful club after Man Utd (16 to 17 trophies respectively). The Chelsea total is correct- and only mentions ,correctly, MAJOR trophies, but the Man Utd total should be 14. One just needs to add up the trophies of 2003/04 onwards . At first I wondered if the author had wrongly included the Community Shield, but this is not the case. I also thought the use of the word ‘decade’ might explain it, but the trophies included obviously go up to this year(2021). So, the article should state Chelsea have won the most major trophies in England, since his takeover. 16 to 14. In honours including the Community Shield, then it becomes Chelsea 18 Man Utd 20 Many thanks for your attention Enkayaitch (talk) 21:56, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Should it be added to this article that Alexei Navalny has called for sanctions against Roman Abramovich? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 06:13, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Portugal[edit]

The article has been edited to say that he is now Portuguese. While I am quite prepared to believe that is the case, it should be noted that the first citation, from Público[1], is based on the change to the Wikipedia article and the second citation is sourced from the Público article. So, we have a circular citation. Someone changes Wikipedia. It gets picked up by a newspaper and then that newspaper article is used to justify the change to Wikipedia. Without independent citations I propose to delete the section on his Portuguese nationality. Roundtheworld (talk) 11:49, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed the citations to two that quote his spokesman as confirming the fact.Roundtheworld (talk) 18:42, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Roman Abramovich é cidadão português desde Abril". Público. Retrieved 18 December 2021.

Nationality[edit]

Currently the article leade describes him as "Russian-Lithuanian-Israeli-Portuguese", while he does in deed have citizenship of all of these countries I feel it should just describe him as Russian is that is what he is primarily known for being and what I assume he would identify as Russian more than anything else else. What does everyone else think? C. 22468 Talk to me 13:29, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Does he actually have a Lithuanian passport- think its accepted he has the other 3 passports. Know his father was Lithuanian- and some of his kids apparently have that nationality but does he in fact have a Lithuanian passport ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8084:255D:9380:8C48:D501:B464:C0AA (talk) 13:21, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Net_worth element in info box.[edit]

Doesn't appear to be working, not sure if that should be adjusted or removed from the infobox. Govvy (talk) 13:31, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Funding of Israeli settlement[edit]

The section "Funding of Israeli settlement" is lifted verbatim from the linked BBC article, and as a result, lacks this article's context. It should probably be revised. (I've added an internal link to the organization Abramovitch funds but that's about it.) Rxtreme (talk) 03:02, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Special request for edit[edit]

This page is locked and this is a new account. I need it stated that now that Abramovich, the Putin lover, is no longer the owner of Chelsea that Chelsea can no longer be buying their trophies. Now the world is going to see the real Chelsea as they used to be before all that money was getting pumped into the club, a mid-table middle sized club. Just another Southampton. Look at what Chelsea were winning before 1996 time (with money pumped in my Matthew Harding), and what they won before that. One league title, one FA cup, and one League Cup. This all needs to be said on the Roman Abramovich article. Marching on Leeds (talk) 09:27, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done:, it would be a blatant violation of WP:BLP and you don't seem to have a source for this. C. 22468 Talk to me 21:41, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 March 2022[edit]

"government" is misspelled:

"Abramovich was one of seven oligarchs hit with sanctions by the UK gvernment, including asset freezes and travel bans." 97.101.202.37 (talk) 13:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done Thanks Ed6767. [1] ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:13, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Photo is not good[edit]

The COVID mask photo is not appropriate. Surely, better photos exist? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 20:41, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Death maybe[edit]

If he dies of the supposed poisoning, we could edit it. (talk) 28 March 2022 (UTC) 2ofthe22ofthe2022

First Paragraph of this Article[edit]

Can someone give me some info about the opening paragraph? I would like to hear this first hand, because I'm very confused unfortunately! One does "Russian-born...", other does "Russian...". Or can someone explain to me what the concept of nationality is "what" for Wikipedia? I researched, but my research was in vain. It looks like we have 3 possibilities:

1   ... is a Russian ...
2   ... is a Russian-born ...
3   ... is a Russian–Israeli–Portuguese ...

According to MOS:FIRSTBIO and MOS:CONTEXTBIO, I vote for the 3rd one. I'm curious about other users' opinions. Please be objective. Acratopotes (talk) 14:15, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ashkenazi/Sephardi Jew[edit]

The article states that he's an Ashkenazi Jew or of Ashkenazi decent. But he obtained Portuguese citizenship. This is only possible for people that are Sephardic Jews, that got expelled from the Iberian peninsula, not for Ashkenazi Jews. KingOfRay (talk) 10:43, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The addition of Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry seems to have been original research and or user assumptions due to his family origins. I removed mention of it a couple months ago because the sources provided at the time did not explicitly state it. Anyways, there's a likely possibility that Abramovich's vetted Sephardi Jewish ancestry was falsified as part of a scheme to gain Portuguese citizenship and therefore gain access to the European Union.[2] There are an investigation and allegations against a rabbi who helped verify Sephardi ancestry and grant citizenship.[3] It doesn't change the fact that he was granted Portuguese citizenship, but the circumstances now seem kind of sketchy. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 23:50, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Russian mafia[edit]

Funding of Vitesse Arnhem[edit]

A story recently came out that Roman secretly funded Dutch club Vitesse Arnhem. The source is included below. Might be worth mentioning as a seperate subheading under Football related investments.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/29/roman-abramovich-secretly-bankrolled-dutch-football-club-leaked-documents-suggest#:~:text=This%20was%20a%20huge%20investment,signings%20of%20world%2Dclass%20stars. Instantwatym (talk) 19:53, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]