Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Revolutionary strategy and the role of the avant-garde

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POV, not encyclopedic. English translation of a French "secret letter" about revolution-fomenting in Quebec. Joyous 01:27, Sep 16, 2004 (UTC)

  • Delete: POV source text. Wile E. Heresiarch 03:44, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • If this letter has any notability, transwiki to WikiSource. Delete. Original source text. Gwalla | Talk 17:01, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • This is a translation of a French text at [1]. Very literal. Unfortunately I don't exactly understand how translation affects copyvio issues, but perhaps someone can explain. Surely you can't rip off a web source just because it's in a different language? Bishonen 01:04, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • If I'm not mistaken, a translation is a derived work of the original, and the copyright of a derived work remains with the original copyright holder. But perhaps someone better informed than me will weigh in. Wile E. Heresiarch 06:43, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep if converted from source text to article about source text. Quite notable. --Daniel C. Boyer 15:10, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete - At any time anyone is welcome to create a new article about the source text. Even you. Even now. - Tεxτurε 18:59, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • OK, please see my copyvio comment above. I've found a statement from Morven on Talk:Copyright problems, supporting what Wile E. said (not that I ever supposed he was mistaken), so presumably the next thing is I slap a copyvio tag on the page, delete the text, and list it on Copyright problems? And if the poster is the copyright owner, or authorized by the copyright owner to translate the text and put it on Wikipedia, s/he will need to get in touch and prove it? Right? Please confirm here, and I'll do it. Bishonen 23:04, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • That's how it works. -- Cyrius| 07:16, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)
      • Thank you. Done. The article is now on Copyright problems, and I think it should be removed from VfD. That's a sysop decision, I suppose. Bishonen 13:00, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)