Talk:Ned Kelly

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The Glenrowan Affair[edit]

Hello all, I have rewritten this section. I have removed some unencyclopaedic language and have tried to present factual information more concisely. I have also removed some incorrect and inadequately sourced information and added information with citations. I have replaced some outdated sources with more recent scholarship. Happy to discuss. --Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 04:31, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Currency conversions.[edit]

While the reward of £8,000 in a caption definitely warrants the conversion to modern currency, how do we feel about the other monetary amounts listed throughout the article? I think it's helpful to have, but I'd like to have other people sound off on whether this would be appropriate. Electricmaster (talk) 07:21, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'd agree with this, as much as my opinion matters. 92.236.211.53 (talk) 08:22, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All opinions matter! The problem is we need a reliable source for the currency conversion. There isn't one for the caption in the reward notice which means it should be removed under policy. Another problem is that because of inflation we would need to constantly update the conversions which would be a real pain. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 22:45, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Citizenship / Nationality[edit]

Should the article explain Kelly's acquisition of Australian citizenship, given that he was born in a then-British colony? JezGrove (talk) 20:20, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see that this is an issue. All reliable sources refer to him as an Australian bushranger and he certainly didn't identify as British. His notatiblity comes from being an Australian bushranger. This is perfectly consistent with MOS:NATIONALITY. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 22:37, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

inflation calcs[edit]

Kind of hard to grasp reward amounts from this era without modern-day approximations. Should this be introduced. I've invoked it for the Aus gold rushes, which was of a similar era. Thoughts? Electricmaster (talk) 07:13, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it is useful because the result would be misleading. I understand that there is a template which provides an adjustment of money amount for inflation, but such templates are only as useful as the source data. Consumer inflation is usually calculated using the change in price of a "typical" basket of goods and services, but there is no comparison between a typical basket of goods and services in 1880 compared with today. Today, people spend a lot of money on cars, laptops and iphones; these didn't exist in 1880. Today a typical house in Melbourne costs $800k; in 1880 Ned built a loghouse for his family himself. A more useful comparison (IMHO) would be reward money expressed a a multiple of the average wage. Unfortunately such a comparison would involve original research. Also see my concerns last time you raised this issue. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 09:44, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]