Talk:Cal Ripken Jr.

Redirect and disambiguation

Cal Ripken should not redirect to Cal Ripken Jr., because there was a man named Cal Ripken, Sr., also...I have changed this. — Braaropolis | Talk 20:12, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Yes it should, and this should be okay because I have placed a disambig message at the top of Cal Ripken, Jr. The son is far more famous than the father. Nearly anyone searching for Cal Ripken is going to be looking for the son, not the father. Nearly all links to Cal Ripken, are going to be to the son, not the father. An article doesn't even exist yet for Cal Ripken, Sr., though someone may start the article soon. —Lowellian (talk) 09:03, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

No, it shouldn't. It should lead to a disambiguation page. Cal Ripken, Sr. was a prominent manager. Just because the son is now on TV and more well known to a younger generation doesn't mean you redirect. Disambiguation is the proper route.///

That has now been done. Ellsworth 18:25, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Cleanup

Submitted for cleanup: the entire article is written more like a feature story than an encyclopedia article, and needs attention.--Napthene 01:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I have started cleaning it up, but more help is always appreciated. --Awiseman 20:54, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for what you have done; I have tried removing the hyperbole....WillC 21:00, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I have cleaned up the language a great deal. I think there should be more about any bad seasons Ripken had, as now it's basically all good seasons. Anyone? --Awiseman 21:29, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

There's still a bit too much editoralizing in entry in my opinion. --The Kevin 14:43, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I definitely agree. Go for it. --Awiseman 17:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I've tried to clean it up with more neutral language. Some of the quotes should probably be removed if nobody can find anything to back them up. Mglovesfun 20:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not positive, but wasn't it Derek Jeter that moved to third for Cal in the 2001 All Star game? (I know whichever it was cleared it with Joe Torre ahead of time without telling Ripken. That I do remember from a post game interview with Torre.) S31064 (talk) 19:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Cal and Derek switched positions at the start of the 2001 All-Star game (much to the delight of the fans in attendance), though it took some convincing to get Cal to move. Derek had to point to Torre (who responded by waving his arm over, motioning Cal to move to SS) to get Cal to agree. They switched back after the 1st inning. TyVulpine (talk) 03:07, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

How come we cannot include Ripken's chances of going into the HOF unanimously?

Everytime I try to add that Cal is a lock for first ballot HOF induction, it gets zapped; if it's okay for Tony Gwynn's article to mention that, why not Cal? It's a pretty well known fact that Cal has an excellent chance of becoming the first unanimously elected player as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Estil (talk • contribs)

• Because Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. If you've seen such original research predictions, regardless of how likely (I happen to agree with the Ripken prediction) they should be removed. If you can find notable sports figures (commentators, HOF organizers, etc) who've made comments on the subject you can include their comments as notable inputs, but your own voice (regardless of how likely) cannot be recorded in that way on Wikipedia. Staxringold _talk^contribs 19:41, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

it should be noted on his page that...

on cal ripkens Tying night- im talking the night of game #2130 (his breaking night would be the night of the game sept 5 1995 i believe game #2131) he hit a home run which landed on a very peculiar red seat in left field- the only red seat in the ballpark. i believe: Section 86 Row FF Seat 10 (do a search its on the internet i know it for a fact i have season tickets right next to the seat, #7). anyways heres the interesting trivia note: he hit that EXACT same seat where he hit home run 278 which broke ernie banks old record for home runs by a shortstop in 1993. ive read this numerous times on the internet. i know someone will find it in a news article, i have the old baltimore sun where theres an article about him and it mentins that fact in a box in my basement. it would be nice to see it on the site. if someone could do that it would be neat! my login name here is mackdiesel i just created it and i hope that noone deletes this paragraph without looking this up!!! my email is also mackel309@adelphia.net either way id like a repsonse thanks.

• Putting it in now, sourced to the Orioles ticket page. Staxringold _talk^contribs 18:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

The tying night (#2130) was Sept 5, 1995, the record-setting night (#2131) was Sept 6, 1995. TyVulpine (talk) 03:10, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Kevin Costner

the urban legend concerning kevin costner possibly sleeping with mrs. ripken has reached cult status and should be somehow noted. WillC 23:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

There's no possible way to justify adding an "urban legend." You could add hearsay to anyone's entry, and that's simply ridiculous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.253.17.119 (talk • contribs)

I agree with anonymous. If you can find a reliable source, fine, otherwise it's an urban legend --AW 19:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, also WP:NOTABLOG is a good guideline that reminds us that Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia , not a Entertainment gossip site. EliteArcher88 (talk) 01:24, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Criticism of leadership

There's a great ESPN (or HBO?) biography of Ripken that delves into the amount of power, for better or worse, he had in leading the Orioles during the 1990's. I grew up loving him and still do, but his story is incomplete without an account of many Orioles' (especially including managers') criticism of Ripken's uncompromising control of the team. If someone has this bio, add what you think is relevant.--Akwhitacre 20:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Cal always said he never wanted to be the "team captain", instead feeling that role (rightfully) belonged to the manager. TyVulpine (talk) 18:57, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

I enjoy responses that are 2 1/2 years after the original post. :) Be that as it may, the Orioles were contenders when Ripken was on the team, and now they're not. That's not to say Ripken's retirement sent the team into a downward spiral, but the results are wgat they are. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:01, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

The Orioles were "contenders" for about two seasons (1996 and 1997) during Ripkens' career, not counting the Orioles World Series season of 1983. The rest of the time, the Orioles were a mediocre to outright terrible (0-and-21 ring a bell?) team. They've only made the postseason twice since 1983, with no WS appearances. TyVulpine (talk) 07:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

So, you think things got better after he retired? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:44, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Nope, still haven't had a winning season since 1997. TyVulpine (talk) 01:24, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

They should change their name to Lost Angelos. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:40, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Sachio Kinugasa

I vividly remember that Sachio Kinugasa was present when Ripken eclipsed 2,215 games (Sachio's record from Japan). I can't think of a way to integrate Ripken breaking Sachio's record but I think it warrants mentioning. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 23:10, 21 April 2007 (UTC) he was the cutest there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.132.117.8 (talk) 20:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

1991 Season

"His 1991 season is the fourth-greatest in baseball history (second among non-pitchers) as measured by WARP3 at 17.0 wins, bested only by Walter Johnson's 1913 (18.1 wins), Babe Ruth's 1932 (18 wins), and Amos Rusie's 1894 season (17.6 wins)." This is not correct, but I'm not sure what to do about it. The cited source was not interpreted correctly; it was not a list of the top seasons but rather the players who posted the top seasons. Players who appeared more than once were only given credit once. I suspect Ruth or Johnson may have had multiple seasons higher than 17 WARP3, but I don't have a reference for this.

That said, I don't find the use of WARP3 particularly compelling and would much prefer a superior stat like WAR from FanGraphs or BaseballProjection. Babe Ruth alone had 7 seasons that topped Ripken's 1991 season according to WAR, but unfortunately Wikipedia forbids me from synthesizing freely available information. Any thoughts on the best way to resolve this issue? I wonder if it might be best to eliminate the sentence in question, but I'm not sure that this is ideal either. Mickeyg13 (talk) 06:01, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Which birthdate is correct?

At present, both August 6, 1960 and August 24, 1960 appear in the article. Which one (if either) is right? 66.32.165.173 (talk) 02:55, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Retrosheet says Aug 24.[1] MLB.com likewise says the 24th.[2] I'd go with the 24th. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:03, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

A bit of apparent vandalism by 173.187.101.121 (talk · contribs) on May 17th. Now fixed. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:08, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Cal Ripken Jr./GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sportsguy17 (talk · contribs) 01:06, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

I will be reviewing this article. I look forward to working with you, Oriolesfan8 . Tell me when you want to get started. For this next week, I will be available Dec 22 and 23, a little less on Dec 24, 25, and 26. And I am going snowboarding Dec 27-29 without good internet. Tell me what you can do. Thanks. Sportsguy17 (T • C) 01:06, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm glad to see you'll be understanding about time, because I actually won't have internet access all week. If you don't mind waiting till the 30th, that would be great. Thank you for taking up this article, and have a nice Christmas! Oriolesfan8 (talk) 12:29, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks and enjoy your holidays and vacation. Sportsguy17 (T • C) 19:02, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Ready to begin when you are. Oriolesfan8 (talk) 16:20, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Awesome. Reflinks looks good, albeit Checklinks is a little concerning. Try if possible to check any links that are not white, especially the red-highlighted link and if needed, replace it. Next, I shall be giving a section-by-section analysis/review. Sportzilla | _ROARR!! 02:39, 2 January 2014 (UTC) Note: Alternate account of Sportsguy17

Oriolesfan8 - This is brilliant, splendid, well-referenced, great use of visuals, and a pleasure to read. Here are my initial thoughts broadly speaking:

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality, no copyvios, spelling and grammar:

   B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. Has an appropriate reference section:

   B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Pass! Sportsguy17 (T • C) 13:39, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

So, although there are a few dead links and redirecting links, it is very well-referenced and very good to read. I will work with spelling & grammar and see what I find. Sportzilla | _ROARR!! 02:52, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

The spelling and grammar looked good and I didn't find any copyvios, so here is a pass for you. Sportsguy17 (T • C) 13:41, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

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This article contains an inaccuracy. Cal Ripken was not raised in Havre de Grace MD. Although he was born in Havre de Grace Memorial hospital, he was raised in Aberdeen, Maryland, where his family lived, not Havre de Grace. Please make the correction.

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Grounded into double plays

I have removed the "achievement" of being the all-time leader in GIDP. Albert Pujols surpassed Ripken in August 2017 (not sure of the date, possibly August 20, and oddly enough against the Orioles). 72.84.187.230 (talk) 21:51, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

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