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Hello -- I hope this works :-)

Please see how the link I just posted to Sylvester Graham matches up with your source book.

Thanks! EggplantWizard 21:58, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thank YOU Mr. EggplantWizard! But that source isn't dubious at all: It is quite accurate, and a very good resource for me. And thank you for not deleting me as an article! Otto 22:07, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ergh. heh.[edit]

Sorry about the almost-deletion -- don't really know what I'm doing in full yet. Makes sense that user namespace is actually *you* and User talk: your message page. Anyway, glad you enjoyed it. EggplantWizard 22:11, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

-->I am not deleted, therefore I am...--Otto 22:18, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Welcome[edit]

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Trilobite (Talk) 22:26, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Otto, and welcome to Wikipedia :) I hope you enjoy yourself here, and, if you're anything like me, you'll probably find yourself addicted in no time (if you aren't already ;) ). Regarding your question about Sylvester Graham, I really respect and admire that you made sure what you were adding was correct, thank you very much for that. I looked up what you wrote, and it seems to me like the real year he was ordained was 1826[1][2][3](britannica 1911). Thanks again for checking up on this, although your reference does seem trustworthy, seeing as it's from Oxford, mistakes sometimes happen. The new britannica also has it, but you won't be able to see it on the web, since they make you pay. If you look at the summary on google[4] (it's the second from the bottom), you should see "Graham became a Presbyterian minister in 1826". I've changed the date, and added Britannica as a reference (since it seems to be the most trustworthy of all the sources I found).

Cheers, Frazzydee| 23:40, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

No problem, it's my pleasure :) There's a WikiProject called WikiProject Fact and Reference Check that aims to cite as many articles as possible. We really need people to help out with this. I'm not the coordinator, we don't have one (well, not yet anyways). There is a guideline for citing your sources at Wikipedia:Cite sources. The WikiProject is not as active as it used to be, and a lot of people's interests have waned. I plan to try and revive it over the weekend.
I hope I answered all your questions! If not, feel free to slap me on my talk page, and I'll come back and answer anything I missed :) -Frazzydee| 03:50, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the site :) I've heard of bookrags before, but I didn't know they had biographies too...unfortunately I'm a cheap little bastard ;) and I don't like to pay for things. Although I haven't seen any of their biographies, I think Wikipedia would probably be more exhaustive on...well, pretty much everything. The wiki is my god ;) See ya around! -Frazzydee| 03:28, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
heh, caught me there. I guess I would've prefixed 'self-proclaimed' and it would source itself (or I could just link to the history)...but I generally don't bother much on user talk pages unless I'm talking about a specific article ;) -Frazzydee| 02:12, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Fact-checking & articles needing citations[edit]

Heh, I'd say just keep doing what you are doing. Adding citations is the single most important thing Wikipedia needs now that it doesn't have. Just keep trying to find the most reliable resources possible. My worry with using online sources is their reliability is often dubious. But if you take facts straight from the most reliable source, you won't need to worry about someone fact checking your citations. So yes, just dig in and go for it, and try to follow conventions as you go, but don't lose any sleep over that part. Any mistakes you make will either be pointed out to you or fixed eventually. - Taxman 13:01, Feb 21, 2005 (UTC)

Oh yeah, and check out my list of featured articles with possible references problems. Featured articles are supposed to be Wikipedia's best so not having cited sources on those is a serious problem. If you would like to start somewhere, start with those. - Taxman 15:24, Feb 21, 2005 (UTC)

John Money[edit]

Hi, Otto,

I just saw your note on my talk page. Anything you want to add/change on that article is o.k. with me. I tried to follow the link you left for me, the last one, that is. It didn't work. But anyway, if you are only giving links to what somebody else has on their website you aren't breaking anybody's copyright. It's the responsibility of the person whose site you are linking to. If he does break somebody's copyright he will be the one to get in trouble.

Thanks for your kind words, but I think the good parts of that article may have come from other people at least as much as from myself. P0M 02:24, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)