Talk:List of political parties in Romania

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Party names in English[edit]

I've done my best to render the party names into English. A couple I'm not sure of at all, as is evident from question marks in the article. Also, some minority ethnic parties may have names that are conventionally rendered into English quite differently than I have rendered them: these are mostly groups not commonly referred to in English, but some may have adopted specific English-language names of which I am not aware. -- Jmabel 06:28, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Could you link the appropriate party name of each (instead of bolding) so we can write articles on them? --Jiang | Talk 06:35, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Frankly, I feel very few of these merit articles. Most are just representative of an ethnic group in Romania and really don't have much identity other than that. In any case, presumably, any link would be to an English-language name, not the (bolded) Romanian-language name, and I'd like to get those sorted out correctly before we start making links. -- Jmabel 06:43, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Carasoveni[edit]

"Carasoveni" are indeed Croatians, named after the place where they settled in Romania: Carasova.[1] Bogdan 12:20, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)

PNŢCD[edit]

In the Romanian "Partidul Naţional Ţărănesc Creştin şi Democrat", "Christian-Democrat" is applied to the party itself, and not to the "peasants". Does "Christian-Democrat National Peasants' Party" sound OK in English? IulianU 01:03, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Yes, absolutely. -- Jmabel | Talk 01:57, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

Communist Era[edit]

The Communist Era section needs re-writing. The Trade Union Federation and the FDUS were not political parties, and PCR and PMR are just two different names for the same party. Most states in the Socialist Bloc regulated the role of the main political party in the constitution. Was this the case in Romania? If so it ought to be mentioned? Were there any, although politically insignificant, other parties than PCR in the FDUS (like in the case of the minor DDR parties)? --Soman 01:45, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Partidul Naţional-Liberal[edit]

Judging by [this page on Ionel I. C. Bratianu] the Partidul Naţional-Liberal already existed in 1909. Does anyone know a founding date? Or was there a break and a re-founding? -- Jmabel | Talk 21:19, Dec 26, 2004 (UTC)

See Liberalism in Romania. The party has been founded in 1865. Gangulf 22:35, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
But clearly it ceased to exist during the National Legionary State and in the Communist era. Were there other breaks? -- Jmabel | Talk 07:05, Dec 27, 2004 (UTC)
It continued during the dictatorships in illegality, banned in 1947 and refounded in 1990s. Gangulf 18:47, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

One historic Conservative Party or two?[edit]

In the section List of political parties in Romania I see that we now link Partidul Conservator to the article Conservative Party (Romania). But that seems to be suggest that the party it is about only existed through 1918. Am I missing something? -- Jmabel | Talk 23:07, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

Apparently, two parties split of it in 1918/1919: Partidul Conservator-Democrat and Partidul Conservator-Progresist. The first fusioned with the National Party in 1922 and the second "died" in 1919. Bogdan | Talk 23:50, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Interesting, because when I was researching this I found a reference to a Partidul Conservator (unmodified) in the 1935 election. Probably not directly related to the pre-1918 party. Unfortunately, I worked on this one before I started to get meticulous about keeping track of my references (it was issues over Romanian history articles that finally made me realize how important it was that I do that when writing in Wikipedia; this was over a year ago, and almost everyone was still being very lax with references). -- Jmabel | Talk 00:21, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)

This is out of date[edit]

The PSD is no longer the governing party, the Humanist party has changed its name, probably other things. Could someone from Romania fix this, since they are more likely to be fully up to date than I am? -- Jmabel | Talk 04:48, May 10, 2005 (UTC)

In order of registration...[edit]

Why in order of registration under a 2003 law? Doesn't seem to have any deep significance: many of these parties are far older than that law (as much as 13 years older). So why is the order of their registration once that law was passed anything more than trivia? - Jmabel | Talk 05:52, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jmabel, it doesn't have any significance, I just copied the page from [2] and cut out everything else but the party name. Feel free to reorder it however you see fit. Or maybe you could rephrase the "list is ordered..." sentence, since apparently it's confusing. "Legea nr. 14/2003 a partidelor politice" (The Political Parties Act, [3]) required that existing political parties re-register within six months from the date of the law; if they don't, they cease to exist. ("Art 53.(2): In termen de 6 luni de la intrarea in vigoare a prezentei legi, partidele politice existente se vor conforma prevederilor acesteia, urmand procedura judiciara stabilita la art. 18-21, sub sanctiunea radierii din Registrul partidelor politice.") So the existing political parties had to go to the Bucharest Tribunal and register. Thus the Registry of Political Parties ([4]) lists the parties in the order in which their respective re-registration (or registration, for new parties) was handled. That how this ordering came about. Dmaftei 13:45, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Let's stick them in alphabetical order, since this really doesn't signify much. - Jmabel | Talk 07:29, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And, y'know, when I did that, I even found a duplicate. - Jmabel | Talk 07:36, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Order of list of present-day parliamentary parties[edit]

Surely if this is in order of number of representatives in the Chamber of Deputies the PSD does not belong last in the list, behind the UDMR and the Conservatives. But, furthermore, it says it is "as of 2004", at which date the PSD had the largest bloc in the Chamber. I don't know the current numbers and don't know offhand where to look them up. Can someone please sort this out? Thanks. - Jmabel | Talk 05:49, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PRN?[edit]

The article Romanian presidential election, 2000 says that Paul-Philippe Hohenzollern is in the PRN party. What is the PRN party? Please also add it to the PRN disambiguation page. — Reinyday, 22:07, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

<joke>Partidul Regilor Nebuni?</joke> - Jmabel | Talk 20:33, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like the University of Essex doesn't know either… - Jmabel | Talk 20:36, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
…but according to his own site it is Partidul Reconcilierii Nationale (Party of National Reconciliation). - Jmabel | Talk 20:43, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Citing[edit]

Dahn: great work on this lately.

I've been thinking that one of the best things we could do here is to start citing for the existence of the pre-Communist-era parties. I've got one source that might be useful, but I want to know what others think of it as a source:

  • Ioan Scurtu, Viaţa politică din România 1918–1944, Albatros, 1982.

Obviously a Communist-era book, and some of what he says is laughable now that one can afford to laugh (a main relevant section is called Partidele politice ale claselor dominante) but from what I can see the names and dates are on the mark. Acceptable source? - Jmabel | Talk 04:50, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. To answer the question: yes, definately. It cannot be biased for the purpose of this article. Dahn 10:19, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest we leave aside referencing for the major parties - we have references inside the linked articles, and I am going to do more for them in the coming months. By "minor" I especially mean those parties that are not linked (or where I have linked just their leaders - in some cases, that is 50% of the total membership :P); I have already referenced all of the minor ones that are links (for one reason or another - mainly, because the references I have do add some detail which may constitute ground for articles). I would not reference here parties like the MADOSZ or Iorga's Nationalist-Dem. Party: second-rate (and sometimes less) indeed, but info on each is almost as abundant as it is for the National Liberal Party, and we can start work on articles (rather than mentions inside articles) at any given time. Is this a good guideline? Dahn 13:30, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also: Joe, I have changed the reference system only because I feel more confortable editing in this version. Feel free to change it to whatever you see fit for this article. Dahn 14:19, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The new parties you have added (good job, btw, especially the articles attached): the actual translation for Partidul Stangii Unite is not "of the Lefts" - the -ii stands for the genitive, so it is closer to "United Party of the Left", but I guess "United Left Party" is good or even better as a rendition into English. I'm not sure, but I think "Popular Agrarian Party" should be turned into "People's Agrarian Party" (we have used "people's" to stand for the Romanian "popular(a)" in other instances). Dahn 14:34, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Miscarea Ecologista din Romania[edit]

Wasn't MER a party too? i knwo they got 2.5% or so in the 1990 elections Anonimu

They made a fusion with the Federatia Ecologista din Romania in 1998 --93.104.106.181 (talk) 23:45, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More up-to-date list of registered parties[edit]

I would suggest referring to a more up-to-date list of registered parties, see [5]--93.104.106.181 (talk) 23:43, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

there is nothing there, page under construction--IngerAlHaosului (talk) 05:38, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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