Talk:Friedensreich Hundertwasser

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In the list of buildings of Hundertwasser, shouldn't Kunsthaus (in Vienna, close to Hundertwasser Haus) be included?

I agree he is a bit weird but i love his work!

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Friedensreich Hundertwasser ....... was an Austrian painter and sculptor. Should Architect not be added to this description?

how come there are no paintings that hundertwasser made?

I don't think "architect" should be added, since he was no architect and needed real architects to build his fantasies. --mmg 19:07, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And again, neither by english and english-speaking countries', nor by austrian laws and commons, Hundertwasser was an architect. He did not speak of himself as an architect, neither. He made sketches for buildings, but the construction, planning, and building-work was done by real architects. --mmg 13:53, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Whether or not he was a "real architect" seems to me to be an emotionally-charged issue of point of view. While not professionally certified, or even self-identified (do you have a citation for that?), many of his activities as an "artist producing buildings" (or whatever alternative characterization you are arguing for) would seem to qualify as practicing architecture, and left behind a bunch of well-known, real buildings. I think the article needs to better cover this controversy, and not steer away from it. Removing the article from the "architect" categories seems to me to be steering away from it; e.g., someone looking up "Austrian architects" would be better served, I think, by seeing him listed, following the link, and learning about the controversy, than they would be by having this information effectively shielded from them. --ScottMainwaring 16:36, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So the articel should inform about that controversity, that he worked with buildings but was not an architect. --mmg 21:11, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Whether or not he was a "real architect" seems to me to be an emotionally-charged issue of point of view." Wrong! There is no such thing as a "real" or a "wrong" architect. Architect is architect - layman is layman or hobbydesigner is hobbydesigner. Basta! (I get sick sometimes, too, would you accept it if I call myself a doctor?) The fact that someone likes to design or decorate buildings does not qualify him as an architect. "Architekt" in Austria and Germany (and in any other European countries for that matter) is a "geschützte Berufsbezeichnung", meaning "occupational title protected by laws and regulations requiring academic and practical training and certification". Anyone who dares to call himself "architect" without this and at whim is (at least in Germany and Austria) comitting a regulatory offence (minor breach of law). So like mmg pointed out already: Hundertwasser was NOT an architect and he was clever enough to never call himself that. He was an artist who designed buildings.--92.231.236.152 (talk) 19:15, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Correction: He was an artist who liked to decorate buidlings. He did not even design them in the way an architect would have done it.--85.179.82.77 (talk) 10:49, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Birth name?[edit]

The article mentions that Hundertwasser is his adopted name, but makes no mention of his birth name. Is it known? And if so, shouldn't it be in the article? Grutness...wha? 04:43, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed! --mmg 22:00, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would translate "Friedensreich" as "empire of peace" and "rich in peace" rather than "peaceland" and "peaceful".. 202.166.27.108 04:40, 7 July 2007 (UTC) (erm: after login that's Sejtam 04:41, 7 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]

I think that "rich in peace" is the correct translation. If you look at the german wikipedia, they explain there, that he adopted this name during his time in japan in 1960, and the article talks about the terms "Friede" and "reich" where the latter is spelled lowercase. This indicates that "reich" means the adjective "reich" (rich) not the noun "Reich" (empire). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.223.60.240 (talk) 07:52, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

His new name is a partial translation, from Slavic sto meaning 'hundred' – though I imagine the true etymology of Stowasser is entirely different! —Tamfang (talk) 19:29, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

According to [99 Percent Invisible, Ep 134], his name was "Tausendsassa Friedensreich Regentag Dunkelbunt Hundertwasser (which translates to “Multi-Talented Peace-Filled Rainy Day Dark-Colored Hundred Waters” in German)." This is one name longer. I can't confirm or deny that. Does anyone else have anything on the topic? Jbsegal (talk) 22:06, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Art work[edit]

Shouldnt there be a full list of his artwork. I dont know enough to do this but it would be useful for people studying him. Does anyone agree?--Dagurlwonder 00:49, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do because I am in Year 8 and have currently got Art homework about him :) Rswfan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.168.97.173 (talk) 08:18, 12 June 2010 (UTC) I am in Year 8 and I don't know about his artwork - but there is still none on Wikipedia. It's been more than 10 years now! (Jack Burton, 17th Sept 2017) 2A02:C7D:9E36:3C00:6432:AF81:164D:8D06 (talk) 16:45, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Drugs, psychedellic art?[edit]

I gather that Hundertwasser did at least some of his still works under the influence of psilocybin. This seems relevant to his highly surreal artwork and is unmentioned at the moment. Also, should we add Category:Psychedelic artists? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BenFrantzDale (talkcontribs) 01:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC) yeah that would be great —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.1.180 (talk) 17:16, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Controversial?[edit]

the text: "he became one of the best-known contemporary Austrian artists, although controversial, by the end of the 20th century." has no explanation - was the controversy surrounding his work or his life?--Gonzophotojournalism (talk) 12:39, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

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Rated it "Start" as it still lacks a lot of references and biographical data (when did he move to NZ for example). MadMaxDog 06:48, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Inclusion of association with Horst von Wächter?[edit]

Philippe Sands, in the film What our fathers did - A Nazi legacy (also known as My Nazi Legacy: What Our Fathers Did), interviewed two sons of prominent Nazi officials, Niklas Frank (the son of Hans Frank, the Governor-General of occupied Poland) and Horst von Wächter (the son of Otto Wächter, the Governor of Kraków in Poland and Galicia in Ukraine).

In the film Horst von Wächter says that after the war, while struggling to come to terms with his father's legacy, he became associated with Hundertwasser. He says that he travelled with Hundertwasser to New Zealand.

"At a certain moment I said to my friend that I want to serve somebody...when I saw Hundertwasser the first time I knew that he would need me and I would go along with him quite well because he was also a shy person, like me, and somehow that he was Jewish that was of course very good for my feelings too. Then I went sailing the boat to New Zealand. That was his new paradise." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antzblu (talkcontribs) 10:39, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

English?[edit]

the phrase 'he implemented window right and tree tenants, uneven floors, woods on the roof, and spontaneous vegetation' makes no sense. It needs re-writing. 139.168.49.161 (talk) 21:20, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]