Talk:Meigs Field

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"In Popular Culture"[edit]

I personally loath the the "in popular culture" sections on Wikipedia since they tend tend to be both wrong and dominated by anime, scifi, and fantasy references. ("Harry Potter uses a wand made of wood", as xkcd aptly put it.) Meigs Field was where you took off in subLOGIC (now Microsoft)'s Flight Simulator 20:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Merrill C Meigs[edit]

Does anyone have information on who Merrill C. Meigs was?

Slathering 02:31 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Info on Meigs added, along with a bio of him on separate page.

shsilver

Someone added 'illegaly' to the statement that the mayor bulldozed X's in the runway. Is that true? Can someone provide supporting evidence? If no evidence turns up, I'll delete the word. -- Ansible

It was against Federal Aviation Rules (FAR's). The city paid a fine as noted in the article. I don't believe they'd have been fined if everything was above board and legal. This wasn't exactly some minor pesky technicality. The city is very lucky someone didn't make an insturment approach to a fog shrouded Meigs airport early in the morning before the tower was scheduled to open. Chicago Approach controllers do not appear to have been informed the airport was closed until someone tried to land there. Thankfully they could see the damage done and didn't plow into equipment or cartwheel on the trenches cut into the runway. Use of the word illegal therefore is neither POV or inappropriate. Skywayman 22:02, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would speculate if the City of Chicago is being fined by the FAA for the premature shutdown of the airport, the actions were indeed "illegal". -- mstyne

Dis-heartening...but this page should be nominated for feature if it already hasn't been. -- Hard Raspy Sci 06:33, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If anything this article should be noted as a prime example of POV issues. Written entirely by the 200 people who benefited from an airport in Chicago's front yard, and continually re-edited once one of the remaining 99.99% resident of Chicago tried to NPOV the article.

J. Crocker 19:56, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The comment [[Written entirely ]by the 200 people who benefited from an airport in Chicago's front yard]] contains its own POV bias. Meigs Field contributed to the economy of Chicago in many ways far far beyond the pilots based there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rkaplan (talk • contribs) 20:02, August 21, 2006 (UTC)

I don't even know where to begin with such an ill informed statement that only 200 people benefited. I am NOT one of the 200, I've never used the airport and obviously can't now. A small amount of research, let alone common sense, should tell you if these "200" can't use Meigs where they would go. Midway is the next closest airport to the loop. I'm sure people who fly the airlines from Midway might appreciate it if some of that private traffic went elsewhere while their plane patiently waits to takeoff. From that standpoint alone the other 99.9% of Chicago residents should have some concerns. I also think they'd be concerned if their place of business was bulldozed in the middle of the night, but like you say if it only affects 200 people without warning then we shouldn't be concerned. One point I'm not sure how to work into the article that should be mentioned though is Mayor Daley stated this action was needed to prevent a terrorist attack in downtown Chicago. The airspace around downtown Chicago was controlled from Meigs Field. No airport equals no controlled airpspace around all those tall buildings now. Still think this only affects 200 people? Skywayman 22:17, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

move?[edit]

Since Meigs is gone, should this article be moved to Northerly Island, which currently redirects to Meigs Field? — goethean ॐ 02:27, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I disagree with moving it under Northerly Island, Meigs has great landmark/historical value on its own and deserves its own entry. By the way, I disagree with Northerly Island being redirected here too since it is a sepparate object (though I wonder wether the island deserves its entry). -Gary
  • Nope. In the event that the current (and seemingly eternal - 27 years!) Mayor finally leaves office, Meigs Airport could be rebuilt and put back in operation. --AVM 16:32, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Section on closing is disputed[edit]

There are too many fact tags in the Closing of Meigs Field section. There doesn't need to be a reference for every sentence about the closing.

  • then please reference the statements. it's wikipedia policy to reference your sources. anything that is disputed and not backed up can be removed at any time... so it's really just a courtesy to flag the statements and give people a chance to back em up. Randella 02:43, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you disagree with most of an article or section it's counterproductive to put a fact tag after every sentence, especially when they are so closely related as they are here. It makes it look like you have an ax to grind. I'm putting a disputed tag in the section to draw attention to it. BTW, you could do a quick Google search and see that there are countless newspaper articles confirming practically everything in the section. Rsduhamel 20:13, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • then knock yourself out. the fact tags are actually very helpful in highlighting exactly what might be disputed or otherwise needs to be backed up. this article is already controversial and needs more sources. Randella 01:53, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can find the information, but I do not know where the direct quotes are coming from. Can somebody find those? —Dmbrown00 20:05, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"The stranded aircraft were later allowed to depart from Meigs' 3,000-foot (910 m) taxiway." - To my knowledge this is false. I lived in Chicago at the time and I vividly remember small aircraft being loaded onto flatbed trucks and transported from Meigs Field to Midway Airport. The aircraft were then allowed to take-off from Midway and the City of Chicago footed the bill for the ground transportation of the aircraft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.68.189 (talk) 11:57, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The statement in the Meigs Field article that " In February 2006, the city announced plans to open a heliport on the island.[19]" is factually incorrect. The city announced plans for a heliport near Navy Pier, not Northerly Island. See Chicago Tribune, February 10, 2006. The citation for the claim is a broken link. I will delete that sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbhunt (talk • contribs) 23:03, 3 September 2012 (UTC) Dbhunt (talk) 23:06, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Overstated[edit]

The importance of Meigs to the medical professional is overstated in the article. Most major hospitals in Chicago have helipads. This article reads as though it were authored by a member of "Friends of Meigs Field". A reference is needed for the statement: "The Chicago lakefront flight corridor has a history of near-misses and mid-air collisions.". You may also want to add the number of crashes that occurred around Meigs by planes leaving Meigs, if only for completeness. -mktnc

We need to find a secondary source either way, but note that hospital helipads are useful only in good, clear weather and fairly calm winds, and that they're higher risk, since the helicopters have to operate so close to buildings and people — you need an airport for 24/7 medevac service, even if the patient is in a helicopter. David 21:09, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Construction Section[edit]

Who is Daniel Burnham? This is a fragment of a thought that should be fleshed out or deleted — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andyberks (talk • contribs) 02:04, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Why?[edit]

Does anyone know whether the reason why Chicago mayor Richard M. Daley forced the closing of Meigs in 2003 by ordering the overnight bulldozing of its runway and converting the airport into another sort of park without notice, in violation of Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regulations, because of aircraft noise restrictions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clrichey (talk • contribs) 00:18, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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