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Why is Thanksgiving in Massachusetts Bay on here? This isn't the first Thanksgiving. We don't have the first Thanksgiving in Maine or Virginia, do we? Rmhermen 13:46, Jul 8, 2004 (UTC)

Liberty Bell[edit]

Liberty Bell was removed 2007 for being too apocryphal.[1] The article currently reads that "while there is no contemporary account of this particular bell ringing, most authorities agree that the Liberty Bell was among the bells that rang. However, there is some chance that the poor condition of the State House bell tower prevented the bell from ringing". Zzyzx11 (talk) 07:36, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: The Wall Street Journal (maintenance); Soapy Smith (maintenance)
Omitted: Michael Brown Okinawa assault incident (deleted; BLP concerns)
Included: Kim Jong-il (first appearance); STS-135 (first appearance)
Repeats: Our Lady of Kazan (6th consecutive appearance, 6 total); Battle of Carillon (3rd consecutive appearance, 4 total); Bayonne Statute (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 05:12, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes[edit]

Omitted: Our Lady of Kazan
Included: Shootout on Juneau Wharf (first appearance; blurb previously featured Soapy Smith, which is ineligible)
Repeats: Battle of Carillon (4th consecutive appearance, 5 total); Bayonne Statute (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total); Kim Jong-il (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); STS-135 (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 05:51, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes[edit]

Deleted: Battle of Yancheng (moved to August 21 per comment below)
Omitted: Battle of Carillon; Bayonne Statute; Shootout on Juneau Wharf; STS-135
Included: Our Lady of Kazan (6th appearance, last in 2012); Battle of Poltava (7th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); The Wall Street Journal (5th appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible); Roswell UFO incident (6th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible)
Repeats: Kim Jong-il (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total; 10th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:23, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Yancheng dated on July 8 of the Chinese calendar, August 21 of Western Calendar.--113.168.108.223 (talk) 08:10, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the correction. —howcheng {chat} 16:29, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes[edit]

Omitted: Our Lady of Kazan; The Wall Street Journal; Kim Jong-il
Included: John Clarke (Baptist minister)/Rhode Island Royal Charter (both: first appearance); Bayonne Statute (4th appearance, last in 2013); STS-135 (3rd appearance, last in 2013)
Repeats: Battle of Poltava (2nd consecutive appearance, 8 total); Roswell UFO incident (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:54, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Jeannette Expedition (TFA for 2016)
Omitted: John Clarke (Baptist minister)/Rhode Island Royal Charter (Charter article is now ineligible due to maintenance); Battle of Poltava; Roswell UFO incident; STS-135
Included: Battle of Malta (first appearance); Battle of Carillon (6th appearance, last in 2013); The Wall Street Journal (6th appearance, last in 2014); 1962 Rangoon University protests (first appearance)
Repeats: Bayonne Statute (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:51, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Our Lady of Kazan (maintenance); Kim Jong-il (maintenance); STS-135 (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Malta; Battle of Carillon; The Wall Street Journal (ineligible—maintenance); 1962 Rangoon University protests
Included: Battle of Poltava (9th appearance, last in 2015); Jeannette Expedition (first appearance); Roswell UFO incident (8th appearance, last in 2015; 70th anniversary); Ghassan Kanafani (first appearance); Saint Kilian (first appearance); Peter Sainthill (first appearance); Tzipi Livni (first appearance)
Repeats: Bayonne Statute (3rd consecutive appearance, 6 total)

—howcheng {chat} 08:00, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes[edit]

Omitted: Battle of Poltava; Bayonne Statute; Roswell UFO incident; Ghassan Kanafani (ineligible—maintenance); Saint Kilian; Peter Sainthill; Tzipi Livni
Included: John Clarke (Baptist minister) (3rd appearance, last in 2018; also appeared on April 20 for his birthday); Shootout on Juneau Wharf (2nd appearance, last in 2013); 1962 Rangoon University protests (2nd appearance, last in 2016); 2014 Israel–Gaza conflict (first appearance); Alberto Bolognetti (first appearance); Käthe Kollwitz (first appearance); Sky Ferreira (first appearance)
Repeats: Jeannette Expedition (2nd appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:56, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes[edit]

New articles (ineligible): James Bennett McCreary (TFA for 2019)
Omitted: Jeannette expedition (moved to July 13, date of sinking); Shootout on Juneau Wharf; 1962 Rangoon University protests; 2014 Israel–Gaza conflict; Alberto Bolognetti; Käthe Kollwitz; Sky Ferreira
Included: Battle of Malta (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Bayonne Statute (7th appearance, last in 2017); Roswell UFO incident (9th appearance, last in 2017); Carlos, Prince of Asturias (first appearance); Eli Lilly (first appearance); Muhammed bin Saud Al Saud (first appearance)
Repeats: John Clarke (Baptist minister) (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:44, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes[edit]

Deleted: Jeannette expedition (moved to June 13)
Omitted: Battle of Malta (ineligible—maintenance); John Clarke (Baptist minister)/Rhode Island Royal Charter; Bayonne Statute (deleted—moved to July 6); Roswell UFO incident; Carlos, Prince of Asturias; Eli Lilly; Muhammed bin Saud Al Saud
Included: Battle of Poltava (10th appearance, last in 2017); Battle of Carillon (7th appearance, last in 2016); 1962 Rangoon University protests (3rd appearance, last in 2018); 2014 Israel–Gaza conflict (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Giorgio Pullicino (first appearance); James B. McCreary (first appearance); Abdul Sattar Edhi (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 23:04, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Jong-il[edit]

For this item, consider linking "death of Kim Il-sung" instead of "death of Kim Il-sung". – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 11:46, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Finnusertop:

Done. Thanks for the suggestion! —howcheng {chat} 17:25, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes[edit]

Deleted: Bayonne Statute (moved to (July 6)
Moved to Ineligible: Shootout on Juneau Wharf (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible): George Romney (TFA for 2021)
New articles (unused): Sourav Ganguly
Omitted: Battle of Carillon; 1962 Rangoon University protests; 2014 Israel–Gaza conflict; Giorgio Pullicino; James B. McCreary; Abdul Sattar Edhi
Included: John Clarke (Baptist minister)/Rhode Island Royal Charter (Clarke: 5th appearance, last in 2019; Charter: 2nd, last in 2015); Roswell incident (10th appearance, last in 2019); Kim Jong-il (4th appearance, last in 2014; rescued from Ineligible); Qatr al-Nada (first appearance); Hugo Boss (fashion designer) (first appearance); Yarden Gerbi (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Poltava (2nd consecutive appearance, 11 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:25, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: 2014 Israel–Gaza conflict (maintenance); Sourav Ganguly (maintenance); Abdul Sattar Edhi (maintenance)
Omitted: Kim Jong-il; Qatr al-Nada; Hugo Boss (fashion designer); Yarden Gerbi
Included: Battle of Carillon (8th appearance, last in 2020); 1962 Rangoon University protests (4th appearance, last in 2020; 60th anniversary); Eli Lilly (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Percy Grainger (first appearance); Sky Ferreira (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 30th birthday)
Repeats: Rhode Island Royal Charter/John Clarke (Baptist minister) (both: 2nd consecutive appearance; RI: 3 total; Clarke: 7 total); Battle of Poltava (3rd consecutive appearance, 12 total); Roswell incident (2nd consecutive appearance, 11 total; 75th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:08, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]