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Misrepresentation[edit]

I can't imagine what someone was thinking, putting an article about B. B. King's sometime bass player of the same name in this slot, which should and now does belong to the Boss of the Blues. Ortolan88 03:22 Sep 25, 2002 (UTC) --70.178.155.136 03:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)--70.178.155.136 03:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shake, Rattle And Roll[edit]

I have only fairly recently been able to appreciate the full brilliance of Big Joe Turner. His original version of that fabled song, is so different, and still so fresh, half a century on. Of all the things that have changed in recent times, the fact that black artists do not have to play second fiddle in the popular music stakes, is the one that pleases me most. Along with Chuck Berry, and Little Richard, Big Joe begat "rock and roll" in all its glories.

Big Joe Turner, and Paul Robeson, suffered more than most for their art. I hope they sleep well. By the way, I am English, and white.

Derek R Bullamore 22:33, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heart Attack?[edit]

I was just reading up on Big Joe last night and some sources list kidney failure as the cause of death.

At some point in the near future, I intend to considerably expand this article. His cause of death is just one aspect I hope to more adequately cover. But, in the interim, all genuine contributions are much appreciated.

Derek R Bullamore 22:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am now reasonably certain the cause of death was a heart attack. It is possible kidney failure/disease contributed, but I can not find a reliable source. All contributions are welcomed.

Derek R Bullamore 23:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Corrine Corrina...[edit]

...was first recorded by Joe Turner as Big Joe Turner and the song made US POP #41 on 13th June 1946 then as Joe Turner with Chorus and Orchestra which hitted US R'n'B #23 on 24th Feb. 1956. Original version by Bo Carter (born Chatman) in Nov. 1928. (source: Corrine Corrina website). Stephan KŒNIG 12:09, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. My knowledge of the exact make-up/significance of the various U.S. charts (particularly in the 1950s) is a bit hazy. Is there a specific wikipedia link that would enlighten those who wish to investigate further ? Thank you,

Derek R Bullamore 23:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lyric question[edit]

"I'm like a one-eyed cat peepin' in a sea-food store" !!! :-). Do you know what it means? Stephan KŒNIG 12:11, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This question should be at Talk:Shake, Rattle and Roll, but anyway, it's a sexual double entendre. "One eye" is slang for the penis, while "sea-food store" is a reference to the vagina (which is often sexually stereotyped as having a fish-like odour). It's not uncommon for blues songs to have such double-meanings. 23skidoo 23:15, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article is unsourced[edit]

Wikipedia policy is WP:V using WP:CITE. It's much harder to follow the policy if pople add unreferenced material. If it is not referenced, it is cosidered Original Research. See WP:OR. Thanks! Mattisse (talk) 01:27, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it was. However, I am trying to rectify this. All input is treasured, particularly (actually exclusively) when a decent citation/source can be quoted. This is not my article - I am merely throwing in what I am able to the overall mix. Regards,

Derek R Bullamore 23:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong picture[edit]

What we have now is a picture of Joe Turner, not Big Joe Turner. I'll change it. Andy Pipkin (talk) 17:36, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you change it back?! I'm telling you: This is JOE TURNER, not BIG JOE TURNER. Big Joe Turner was a blues shouter wheras Joe Turner was a jazz pianist! Andy Pipkin (talk) 16:31, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The image at WikiCommons has false license and permission information and is marked to be deleted as a pirated image. Only free-use images may be uploaded to Commons. The Real Libs-speak politely 16:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, but then at least find one which isn't pirated and actually shows Big Joe Turner, instead of taking the old, incorrect one. Please. Andy Pipkin (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The film, "The Last Of The Blue Devils" should be added in a filmography section[edit]

Count Basie, Joe Turner, Jay McShann, and others played together in 1974 at the Mutual Musicians Foundation in Kansas City. This was documented in a film entitled "The Last Of The Blue Devils". The filmographies for all involved should be updated to include this important work:

http://www.kino.com/theatrical/th_item.php?film_id=281

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079443/

http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=980DE0DE1538F93BA25755C0A966948260

Related Wiki pages that should also be updated:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_Musicians_Foundation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_McShann

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Basie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.32.211 (talk) 19:12, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Death of father[edit]

Nick Tosches book Unsung Heroes of Rock'n' Roll suggests that Joe's father was killed when he was fifteen in an "automobile" accident rather than the 8 years of age in a train accident. I suppose the automobile could have hit a train, but the age difference here should be checked: Tosches is usually a good source.Manchestercity2 (talk) 00:10, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Possible copyright problem[edit]

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Honeydrippers Reference is Wrong[edit]

In the discussion of Cavalcades of Jazz concerts, it says he played with the The Honeydrippers. The name is plural and links to the 80s rock band. I assume it likely means Joe Liggins who is linked from from Cavalcade of Jazz and had a hit with the song The Honeydripper and his band was called The Honeydrippers. Cavalcade of Jazz links through what appears to be a redirect to get to Joe Liggins.

There is also Roosevelt Sykes who was known as the Honeydripper but Joe Liggins seems to be the correct target based on the Calvacade of Jazz page.

In summary, I that at least the link needs to be changed, and the link moved to the preceding sentence which is the first reference. There may be some more clean up if this thread gets pulled further. JoelSherrill (talk) 16:37, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is the wikilink that is in error, not the reference. You are correct that the act mentioned should have been linked to Joe Liggins and his Honeydrippers. Also that the link should be in the sentence referring to the 1945 event (ie in a preceding sentence). Would you care to effect the edit, or leave it to me ? Thanks for pointing this out. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 17:42, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]