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Dubious[edit]

This article should not be written as a fact. Kieff | Talk 05:26, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)

It does sound quite peculiar. Has anyone else heard of this "Popobawa" creature? In any case, it should clearly be written to state that while a small number of people may believe in this "demon," it's existence is far from proven.

MSTCrow 11:58, Oct 14, 2004 (UTC)

I heard of it in an issue of The Economist sometime last year where they were describing how it is connected to political turmoil in Zanzibar and using it as a metaphor. While obviously a rational person has to doubt the existence of a creature, the phenomenon is real. And so if stated clearly as a legend the factualness of this article shouldn't be any more under question than those of Greek gods, Chupacabra, or the Yetti. Guest - Jordan March 10, 2005
Personally, this sounds like a pile of bullshit. Really, it could be just established as a folklore story.--Keyzersoze 16:52, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Merging[edit]

Not knowing this article already existed, I created Popo Bawa today and then found this article. IMHO, the new one is better written (this one has POV and cleanup tags everywhere) and the new one already has other current contributors. I've taken any information from this one, and I'm turning it into a redirect to the new article. SchmuckyTheCat 03:52, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Recent upsurge[edit]

There is another upsurge in activity [1] (Emperor 03:12, 22 February 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Removed paragraph[edit]

Villagers maintain that Popobawa becomes enraged if his existence is denied. It is said{{Fact}} Popobawa spoke to the villagers in 1971 through a girl possessed by the monster. The girl, called Fatuma, spoke in a man's deep voice and then villagers say they heard the sound of a car revving and rustling on a nearby roof. Many of those on the islands believe in exorcisms, and place charms at the base of fig trees or sacrifice goats.

I removed the above paragraph, which has been tagged with {{fact}} since February. If anybody can find a citation for this material, then I'm sure it will have a place in the article; until then, I don't think we need it. -GTBacchus(talk) 05:52, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, SchmuckyTheCat replaced the paragraph, adding a citation to "Reuters, May 16, 2005". I don't get it. How am I supposed to see this reference? Is it online, or what? -GTBacchus(talk) 12:46, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Reuters is a major journalism feed. An archive of their feeds will pop up the story. Google will find unauthorized reproductions: [2]. SchmuckyTheCat 14:39, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I knew who Reuters is, but I didn't know how to find the actual story. It's too bad we can't send readers there more directly. -GTBacchus(talk) 14:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't want to link to unauthorized reproductions, obviously. SchmuckyTheCat 14:58, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously.  :) It's still too bad. The easier we can make verification, the better. -GTBacchus(talk) 01:47, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There is no reason that a source has to be online to be used (or most books would be ruled out). That said, as Reuter's syndicate their content it must be on a reliable source site. Anyway I have found it on the Web Archive cache of the news story here and they are a legitimate organisation and it is a cached version of page used as a source by Harper's Magazine online [3]. So even if the original report isn't online anymore we can verify that it did exist which should make it fine to use. (Emperor 02:20, 25 May 2007 (UTC))[reply]
I'm not questioning whether it's fine to use; it's just nice when sources are easily accessible online and we can link to them. That's all. -GTBacchus(talk) 03:33, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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