Talk:Radical Faeries

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Gender Liberation?[edit]

What is "gender liberation" in this context? Martin

I meant both "liberation from gender roles" and "liberation from interalized oppression for people of societally disapproved or unrecognized gender or gender role." Feel free to make this clearer. Bill

Inclusive vs. exclusivist language[edit]

I have made a minor adjustment to the intro para which, while not being a complete revert, is close to it. The sentence previously went:

Radical Faeries (also Faeries and Faes) are a loosely affiliated worldwide network of people seeking to reject hetero-imitation and redefine queer identity through spirituality...

which someone then edited to say:

The Radical Faeries are a counter-cultural movement designed primarily for gay men seeking to reject hetero-imitation and redefine queer identity through spirituality...

Now I really don't want to put off either editor from continuing to edit this page (especially since one of the editors in question has made several really great recent edits to this page), but the second edit is seems to me to be needlessly exclusivist in language, and besides, then very next sentence in both versions stated:

The Radical Faerie movement started in the United States among gay men during the 1970s sexual and counterculture revolution.^[1] The movement has expanded in tandem with the larger gay rights movement, challenging commercialization and patriarchal aspects of modern LGBT life while celebrating pagan constructs and rituals...

Which clearly states the radical faeries were founded by (and the majority of radical faeries continue to be) gay men - which is one of its strengths. But there are people who aren't homosexual (such as heterosexuals, bisexual and asexuals) and there are also both female and gender-variant (including intersex people and non-binary-gender identified) faeries, so I think the language should remain inclusive rather than exclusivist. I have therefore mashed together the previous two edits to read:

The Radical Faeries (also Faeries and Fae) are a loosely-affiliated, worldwide network and counter-cultural movement seeking to reject hetero-imitation and redefine queer identity through spirituality. The Radical Faerie movement started in the United States among gay men during the 1970s sexual and counterculture revolution...

★★Violet Fae (talk)★★ 09:09, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good move! I was the one responsible for the initial changes, but I think you've improved it :) (Midnightblueowl (talk) 10:11, 17 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

No problem - glad to help! :) ★★Violet Fae (talk)★★ 10:19, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Thompson, Mark (21 January 2003), "Remembering Harry", The Advocate, Here Publishing, retrieved 2008-10-17

dead links[edit]

These entries from the External Links section appear to be defunct:

Paganism and Gay Spirituality: A Survey of Radical Faeries in Asheville, North Carolina
Fairie Underground, A Radical Faerie organization providing communication mediums, privacy-advocacy, and journalism resources

I'm moving them here in case they resurface in the future. — HipLibrarianship ^talk 08:17, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Does it really need to be said twice?[edit]

"The Radical Faerie movement was a reaction against the social emptiness that many gay men felt was present both in the heterosexual establishment and the assimilationist gay community.[9]"

Someone needs to decide which paragraph this text belongs in and delete the other instance.CherylJosie (talk) 20:37, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Amish-Mennonite[edit]

Is the red-linked "Amish-Mennonite" (in the "Foundation: 1978–79" section) the same as Amish Mennonite? FrankSier (talk) 22:59, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[remembering-1] Thompson, Mark (21 January 2003), "Remembering Harry", The Advocate, Here Publishing, retrieved 2008-10-17

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