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official colors[edit]

The reason I changed the link to school bus yellow, is because that color as the same hex: FFCC00 as the official color --71.193.177.65 (talk) 06:00, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

According to the school bus yellow page, the hex is FFD800. Valfontis (talk) 06:14, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.246.248.12 (talk) 18:44, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Removed "Flagship" reference.[edit]

I removed the "Flagship" reference in the information section. The Oregon University System has no designated "Flagship" institution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.138.127 (talk) 00:50, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removing it again. The question came up, so I emailed OUS DIrector of Communications, Diane Saunders, because apart from a couple pamphlets, every other source I've read says that OUS had not designated one.
XXXX,
There is no official State Board of Higher Education determination (or definition) of "flagship." Thank you.
Di Saunders
Diane_Saunders@ous.edu
971-219-6869
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 8, 2013, at 8:05 PM, "XXXXXX" <XXXXXXXXXX@XXXXXXX.com> wrote:
Ms. Saunders,
Does OUS have an officially-designated "flagship" university? The only mention of the term I can find online is either unofficial or is actually written by University of Oregon staff, so I am wondering if anything on this has actually been officially determined, rather than opinion or tradition.
Thank you,
XXXXXXXX
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ibleedorange14 (talk) 16:15, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

-- University of Oregon mission statement as approved by the Oregon State Board of Higher Education

References to the University of Oregon being the flagship institution, as verified by the Oregon State Board of Higher Education:

  • On page 2: "The University of Oregon is a comprehensive research university that serves its students and the people of Oregon, the nation, and the world through the creation and transfer of knowledge in the liberal arts, the natural and social sciences, and the professions. It is the Association of American University flagship institution of the Oregon University System." (emphasis mine)
  • On page 3: "As noted in the preamble to the University of Oregon mission statement, this University is Oregon's Flagship Association of American Universities institution. This status, affirmed by the Oregon University System Board sets a context for the considerations of institutional mission fulfillment." (emphasis mine)
  • On page 5: "Selective Flagship Institution. We seek to enhance our flagship status within the Oregon University System by attracting and admitting the most promising undergraduate students from Oregon's divers communities, other states, and the world. To this end, we will develop clear, comprehensive, and more selective admission standards that elevate our current admission criteria consistent with our academic mission and our role as the flagship university in the State of Oregon, while at the same time ensuring unbiased assessment of promise from all student groups. We commit to improving our student retention to the extent consistent with our public mission and to graduating most students within four years." (emphasis mine)

I think the evidence presented in this official document far outweighs any claims from an unverified copied-and-pasted email transcript. Ckere (talk) 16:23, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.uomatters.com/2013/05/uo-starts-substituting-carnegie-rank.html Then why did they halt use of the term in May? ibleedorange14 (talk) 17:14, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That's a pretty sensationalized blog post from an often sensationalist blog. They dropped the term--along with many others--in the press release template only, not how they identify as an institution. Universities are allowed to emphasize whatever selling points they wish in PR so long as it's true. The university has no known plans to drop flagship status for any reason.Ckere (talk) 17:23, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The main problem is that while the term is approved by the OSBHE for UO's mission statement, OUS has gone out of its way to not define the term. "Flagship" probably should remain, but it should not be linked to the flagship wiki page as it is an entirely different meaning. OUS has purposely avoided defining the term to avoid the hierarchy implications. Since the only mention of the word is in UO-generated documents, the burden of proof falls upon the insisted use of the word's intent, rather than the word's inclusion. Feel free to change it back if you can provide a source defining the use of the word-- which does not exist since OUS had taken great pains to leave it in a strictly missional statement, avoiding hierarchical implications at all costs.

In the meantime, I am leaving the word "flagship," because you are right-- the word's inclusion should be undisputed. But as Oregon's place as a "flagship" university does not correlate to the defined wiki term, a link without a credible source explaining its use should be required for the link's placement. ibleedorange14 (talk) 22:57, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I think OUS prefers to stay neutral about flagships since both UO and OSU are on roughly equal levels of endowment and prestige in academia as a whole. The term will remain listed but unlinked unless proper evidence can be shown to suggest otherwise. Ckere (talk) 00:51, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge with University of Oregon Seal[edit]

the article is hardly notable outside of the main article. Your Friendly Neigborhood Wikipedian (talk) 06:23, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • I agree. There's no content worth moving (written with correct encyclopedic tone and cited), so I will redirect that article here.--GrapedApe (talk) 03:42, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Number of Olympians[edit]

Can anyone find anything online about the number of Olympians that have been attached to this school? I'm sure it's a substantial number. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.49.132.194 (talk) 19:03, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Liberal arts can be used to refer to sciences[edit]

I propose we modify the first sentence, and only mention strong liberal arts focus/tradition. The sciences are part of the liberal arts tradition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.49.132.194 (talk) 05:29, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Endowment[edit]

I'd like some feedback from more experienced editors on this issue. There's some significantly varying figures on Oregon's current endowment figures depending on who you ask. Which would be the ideal source to cite? The University of Oregon Foundation's self-reported numbers? Ckere (talk) 19:01, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We generally rely on the annual report put out by NACUBO since they're experts in this area and many people - including reporters and many Wikipedia editors - are poorly informed or confused about endowments e.g., confusing capital campaigns and endowments. I think it's fine to use other sources that are more up-to-date if the number has changed significantly and it's clear that the source is indeed reliable on this specific issue. But it's not always clear if sources are reliable on this specific issue which is why we generally fall back to the NACUBO report. ElKevbo (talk) 19:38, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Endowment numbers have changed significantly (likely due in part to major gifts), so I'm using the latest Willamette Investment Pool numbers. http://www.uofoundation.org/s/1540/images/editor_documents/annual_reports/2014_annual_report.pdf http://around.uoregon.edu/content/uo-foundation-fund-help-local-businesses-involve-business-and-law-students --50.67.53.203 (talk) 22:53, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Willamette Investment Pool numbers also include "other funds with long-term investment horizons," according to the note on p.7 of the University of Oregon Foundation's Audited Financial Statements (http://www.uofoundation.org/s/1540/images/editor_documents/annual_reports/2014_annual_report.pdf). See p.10 for just the University's Endowment balance. Contributor321 (talk) 23:15, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Willamette Investment Pool is much closer to the NACUBO numbers from previous years. Furthermore, "other funds with long-term investment horizons," simply means the endowment is diversifying risk. --50.67.53.203 (talk) 03:45, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

People section[edit]

Looks like the people section has replaced notable alumni/faculty/staff. There's lots of good info there. However, isn't it kind of redundant as there is already separate articles for that section. Looks like this new section is just a more exclusive list.

I think it would make more sense/cleaner to have a paragraph that discusses a few of the very most notable alumni (Ann Curry, Knight, Wyden, maybe a few more), and then a subsequent paragraph discussing a new notable faculty/ staff. Links to the articles can precede each paragraph,

What do you think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiseoleman17 (talk • contribs) 05:10, 4 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think it makes much more sense to follow the UC Riverside model and only include a short list of alum (no more than 5) If you include too many it becomes both redundant and dilutes the quality of the list (i.e. it's not a good list because some are much more notable than others).

It looks like some decided to make this change, and IMO it's far too simple -- in fact, even more simple than it was before. As advised by ElKevbo we were in favor of making it more detailed and expansive. The issue with following the length of the UCR article is that UO has many, many more notable alumni and faculty in part due to being a much older and historically larger school. So for the time being, I am going to put it back to the former, expanded state. Ckere (talk) 02:51, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. Though small, Bollinger, Wyden, Palahniuk, Curry and Knight constitutes a pretty significant and diverse set of alum. Mixing those names with people that don't even have their own respective articles doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I still think it makes more sense to have a small list that serves as a pointer to the notable alumni article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.67.53.203 (talk) 20:03, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Student life and culture[edit]

I think the student life and culture section is becoming a little too long-winded and inconsistent in terms of depth. I moved the forensics subsection to the student activities section. If you think that it deserves its own subsection than I'd recommend creating a separate student life and culture article, where you can go into more detail. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiseoleman17 (talk • contribs) 07:45, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Potential COI declaration[edit]

I was employed by the University of Oregon from 1988-95. I believe I have contributed only non-controversial edits, basing any information I have added, revised, or deleted only on reliable sources, without advocating for the institution. However, I recognize that COI may involve sub-conscious or unintentional advocacy; thus, I welcome review of this article by other editors and related conversations on this talk page. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 22:39, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Official signature[edit]

This image is most likely in the public domain, as the University's "O" symbol already is, and the rest is simple geometric shapes or text. MB298 (talk) 00:43, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The Great Seal[edit]

I cannot find a valid source for the official seal in green. If you log into the UO branding site the seal is in black.

Perhaps it is time for a change?

https://brand.uoregon.edu/great-seal

--50.67.77.5 (talk) 00:13, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This guide, which is on the university website, shows a green seal. Most universities display their seal in black on their website, but that doesn't mean it can't be in a different color (e.g. school colors). So, I say no change is needed. 🇺🇸 Corkythehornetfan 🇺🇸 00:29, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Article creation request due to COI[edit]

I am a student at the University of Oregon, and I have been cited for COI for an article that I created about Special Collections & University Archives (that was deleted and redirected to the University of Oregon wikipedia page). Would anyone be able to create an article for this? There are some universities that have a page for their special collections. I have posted this on the talk page for the Knight Library as well. 80atUO (talk) 19:17, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have created a draft and submitted for review. 80atUO (talk) 18:22, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Duplicate edit request; marked as answered. Altamel (talk) 03:28, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Which university articles set the gold standard?[edit]

Which university articles set the gold standard? How can we work to improve this one?--Wiseoleman17 (talk) 06:45, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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School of Journalism and Communication redirect[edit]

Hello,

I'd like to request that the redirect be removed from the University of Oregon School of Journalism and Communication article (University_of_Oregon_School_of_Journalism_and_Communication). If there are any barriers to removing the redirect, or if there are any further actions I need to take, can you please let me know what they are?

Thank you!

Nmkru (talk) 21:52, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That program is likely worthy of a Wikipedia article so the redirect should be removed. 24.85.227.103 (talk) 23:04, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This page should not be redirected or deleted from Wiki--Wiseoleman17 (talk) 23:40, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is this page worthy of an article? 24.85.234.209 (talk) 17:59, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lede should include info about Nike and National Lampoon's Animal House since UO is famous for it[edit]

UO is not known for very much but many know UO for its connection to Nike and the film Animal House. These topics should be included in the opening paragraph. 24.85.249.74 (talk) 23:54, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is information about Nike. I'm not convinced that a movie released in 1978 belongs in the lede of this article. Is it really among the most critical pieces of information that readers must know immediately? ElKevbo (talk) 00:07, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think the average person doesn't know very much about UO but they increasingly know about UO's ties to Nike, football, track and field and "Animal House". In California, rightly or wrongly, it is perceived as a weed and party school. I think these facts have encyclopaedic merit. Removing, censoring, glossing over them, etc. comes across as an act of boosterism. Now imagine if Cal-State whatever had close ties with Tesla and the whole campus was a Tesla R&D site and everyone had Tesla swag. You'd think this would be relevant to the opening paragraph right? Now imagine if that same campus was the filming location for **one of** the most commercially successful films ever that takes place on a university campus, adjusted for inflation? The film grossed $120m in its initial release (over $550m in today's dollars). 24.85.249.74 (talk) 00:52, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There is an entire paragraph in the lede about Nike and Knight. How much more do you think we need to include???
I don't see how your (unsourced) assertions about this university's reputation in California are critical information. There is already information in the body of the article about this movie and its relationship to the university. We cannot, should not, and will not try to include everything in the article in the lede; we must be very, very selective. In my opinion and experience editing thousands of these articles, this information doesn't make the cut.
You are welcome to request additional input and different opinions from other editors. WT:UNI may be a good starting point but you're free to pursue other venues, too, of course. ElKevbo (talk) 01:40, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps some of the colleges/school pages that were deleted/redirected were in fact notable[edit]

I know the Honors College was one of the first established in the USA after all. 24.85.234.209 (talk) 01:19, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome to draft a new article if you have access to independent, reliable sources that establish that the subject is notable. Please let us know if you do; we can provide feedback and suggestions. ElKevbo (talk) 04:06, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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