Talk:The powers that be

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Wouldn't the singular be "The power that is"?

History of (they) be?[edit]

Why "be" rather than "are"? "Be" doesn't seem to be subjunctive here. What is the history of the indicative use of a "be" form from Old English through to Tyndale? German has "ich bin" and "du bist" in contrast with English "I am" and "thou art", and of course there are regional English forms like, "Where be that blackbird now? I know where 'e be." Does Tyndale's use of it reflect his own regional dialect? What is the extent of its use in other literature after his time? Are there any other literary uses of it contemporary with the KJV? Koro Neil (talk) 23:41, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 28 November 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. I seemed to have messed up using the pageswap tool, feel free to trout me and/or fix any ensuing damage that might have occurred. (non-admin closure) qedk (t c) 21:35, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]


– Per WP:DIFFCAPS / the only usage that is lowercase. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:46, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - unlike the situations for when the only usage has a specific capitalization and editors argue that a reader writing that specific way can only mean they are searching for that title, the same cannot be said for all lowercase. That's just how people search. This helps no one other than you for some reason (and it's a bit annoying that I'll need to copy/paste my same argument to all nominations now). --Gonnym (talk) 23:44, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. But even if we disregard DIFFCAPS, it's the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC based on pageviews and significance. Station1 (talk) 10:56, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Inclined to support this one, not per nom but per PRIMARYTOPIC.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  17:08, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per Station1, even if people are using lower case it would clearly be primary by PT#2 and have the edge in PT#1. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:21, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per Station1. Hyperbolick (talk) 20:53, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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