Talk:Common raccoon dog

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How can it be extinct? They are available on the black market. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.76.24.28 (talk) 15:29, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello - the racoon dog is extant which is the opposite of extinct. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia ^talk 15:44, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

As pets

Mention if it is a good idea.[1] Jidanni (talk) 03:34, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Covid

https://www.thedailybeast.com/raccoon-dogs-likely-started-covid-19-pandemic-new-genetic-analysis-shows Keith Henson (talk) 03:52, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Title

@Abductive:, there are two extant species of Nyctereutes. The Japanese raccoon dog was treated as a subspecies of Nyctereutes procyonoides on Wikipedia until August 2021, at which time this article was moved to "Common raccoon dog". "Raccoon dog" (as well as Raccoon Dog, Raccoon-dog and some additional redirects) probably should have been retargeted to Nyctereutes, following the move in 2021, but that didn't happen. I don't think moving this article back to just "raccoon dog" is an improvement. Plantdrew (talk) 19:29, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Of course it is, "common raccoon dog" is not as commonly used. Wikipedia can't invent a term because now there is a Japanese racoon dog. Abductive (reasoning) 19:43, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia didn't invent the term. Wikipedia got it from a database of mammals which attempts to list standardized vernacular names for all mammals (which may not actually be very commonly used). And that's how Wikipedia has always determined titles for most mammals. I don't agree very much with that practice, and it has produced some profoundly stupid outcomes (the North American animal familiar to tens of millions of English speakers as "possum", or "opossum" is at the title "Virginia opossum", while the "common opossum" shares it range with maybe a couple million English speakers, many of whom know it as "manicou"; before the species were split, "common opossum" was used for the North American animals). Plantdrew (talk) 19:54, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

If you're talking about the MDD, they have Canis lupus as Gray Wolf but Wikipedia has it as Wolf. This critter is a raccoon dog, and the Japanese raccoon dog is at that title because that was its name as a subspecies. Moreover, Nyctereutes procyonoides still has subspecies, so are we going to call the Korean raccoon dog the "common Korean raccoon dog" or the "Korean common raccoon dog"? About the only other title that would make sense is "Asian raccoon dog". Abductive (reasoning) 20:10, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm with Plantdrew here. This was a bad move. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:27, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

I've now fixed the redirects to point to the genus. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:31, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Can someone please explain this stupid "introduction" of this vermin to Europe?

Whose idiotic idea was it to release -- repeatedly, over decades -- these disgusting reservoirs of diseases and parasites, unrelated to Europe and utterly unnecessary, into European wilderness? What was behind that idea? A desire to wreck everything for everyone? Surely not just use for fur, for that they could have been kept in farms, like various rodents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.245.111.163 (talk) 20:26, 3 July 2023 (UTC)