Talk:Lughnasadh

Merge

Parts of this article were merged from Lughnasa. [[User:Lachatdelarue|Lachatdelarue (talk)]] 04:06, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Lughnasadh

Is the pronuciation of Lughnasadh \'lüg-nə-səd\? Equivalently, (1) is the primary stress on the first syllable and (2) is the d at the end pronounced or silent?

I understand that it's pronounced "Loo-nas-ah" with the accent on the first syllable.

Sun God?

As the page on Lugh says, Lugh probably wasn't a sun god. I don't know to what extent his festival involved the sun, though. Someone ought to clarify this.

Pronounciation

l̪ˠuːnˠəsˠə would not be too bad -however velarising the s might be hard for many people

the -adh is /@/ in Connacht

With apologies to Non-pagan Celticists

The article is looking good but over -here- it would seem that this discussion page has been totally commandeered by us Neopagans. This discussion-page should also look "friendly" to persons interested in Celtic Studies who are not pagan, even though 90% of the hits on the article may be coming from a NP context. earrach July 19, 2007

When was Lugnasad? Early Irish Sources say at the end of October?

There are three redaction of Lebor Gabala Erenn The Book of Ballymote & Book of Lecan says: “So she died thereafter in Tailltiu, and her name was given thereto, and that is her grave which is north-east from the Seat of Tailltiu, so that her games were celebrated every year by Lug, a fortnight before Samain and a fortnight after, so that thence comes Lugnasad, i.e. the nasad of Lug s. Ethliu the name of that festivity. ”http://sejh.pagesperso-orange.fr/keltia/leborgab/dedannan-r3.html The Book of Leinster says:“So Tailltiu died in Tailltiu, and her name clave thereto and her grave is from the Seat of Tailltiu north-eastward. Her games were performed every year and her song of lamentation, by Lug. With gessa and feats of arms were they performed, a fortnight before Lugnasad and a fortnight after: under dicitur Lugnasad, that is, the celebration (?) or the festival of Lug. Unde Oengus post multum tempus dicebat, ‘the nasad of Lug, or the nasad of Beoan of Mellan.’” http://www.shee-eire.com/Magic&Mythology/Myths/TheLeborGabala/The-Tuatha-De/Page1.htm The Martyrology of Oengus the Culdee says that nasad of Beoan of Mellan was on October 26th. The versions in Stowe collection (D.5.1, D.4.1, D.1.3), Book of Lecan and Stowe D.4.3 says: "Her games were made annually by Lug, a fortnight before Lugnasad and a fortnight after. Unde dicitur Lugnasad, i.e. nasad of Lug Lamfada, the name of that festivity." (Which gives no infomation as to its time of time.) http://sejh.pagesperso-orange.fr/keltia/leborgab/dedannan-r2.html

Is there any older reference to when Lughnasad occured?

Modern construct of Lughnasadh

Lughnasadh seems like a modern construct put forth by Máire MacNeill. I don't see any early Irish sources mentioning the existence of the festival even if it makes sense for it to exist because of the dating of the 3 other festivals of Bealtaine, Samhain and Imbolc. There is evidence of the Tailteann games but there's no evidence of Reek Sunday having pre-Christian origins. Christian pilgrames are not evidence of Lughnasadh being celebrated in modern times and the Tailteann games are not evidence of it being celebrated in ancient times. The closest thing to the festival of Lughnasadh is the Tailteann games but there is no reason for this article to exist aswell. There's no proof it was named after the god Lugh but instead the month of August was named after him. Saying the festival of Lughnasadh corresponds to the English Lammas is like saying one's birthday corresponds to another birthday because they're on the same day. There's no evidence of a link between Lughnasadh and Lammas. There's also zero evidence of the puck fair having it's origins in the festival of Lughnasadh as it's origins are extremely unknown.92.51.249.119 (talk) 22:15, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of this article

The festival of Lughnasadh never existed historically. The celebrations listed with it are not documented. 92.51.249.119 (talk) 22:37, 7 February 2024 (UTC)