Talk:Frank Bruno

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Frank's "illness"[edit]

I'm tempted to change the description of Frank's illness from "depression". The descriptions his friends were giving in interviews sound more like the manic phase of bipolar disorder (excessive spending etc.) and I heard one report naming his illness as such. I think that the use of "depression" to describe his illness has come from the lack of information from his doctors (due to confidentiality) and the ignorance and bias of the press (where depression is more "acceptable" than mania). Any thoughts? -- sannse 08:45, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

You have to be careful with speculation about his condition. Where possible stick with facts. If there is a report that names his condition then by all means list it and cite the source. -- Popsracer 09:04, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Articles such as this one from Channel 4 have said "depression". A few such as this one from the Telegraph quote a friend as saying "manic depression" (bipolar disorder). But I think either way it's all speculation and I agree we need to avoid that.
How about if I change
He had been suffering from depression for several months beforehand.
to
He has been reported as being unwell for some months. In August 2003 he told BBC Radio Five Live: ""I wouldn't go so far as to say I've been depressed. With the money I lost, I've been a little bit depressed."
-- sannse 11:20, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

This whole section needs a re-write. "Under terms of mental health legislation" is not good enough. If this point is included there must be a precise statement of what the law says and the implications. I presume he underwent psychiatric tests rather than (or perhaps as well as) psychological tests. The reports in The Sun are, of course, reprehensible, but is there a need for the comments about this to be included? Remember, Frank might have a young child who might access this on the computer at school with a group of pals. It cannot be airbrushed away, but equally, it needs to be sympathetically handled. One for a medically-qualified Wikipedian, methinks. Guy 23:57, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fact box wrong?[edit]

It says Frank only lost 4 professional fights. The article mentions Frank's defeats to James "Bonecrusher" Smith, Tim Witherspoon, Lennox Lewis and twice to Mike Tyson. That looks like he lost five at least. Something is wrong somewhere... Gmackematix (talk) 12:49, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He lost five times - the table found in the ring record (http://forward-analysis.com/hamlet/fights.htm) was given to me by Frank and Laura when I was asked to "get him on the internet" to promote his DJ career several years ago. BTW, Hamlet was Frank's promotions company. I would have maintained the site, but one of his daughters then assumed control of his web site and so the page information lapsed. --Bazward (talk) 11:21, 15 March 2011 (UTC)bazward[reply]

Roman Catholic?[edit]

The category "Roman Catholic boxers" does not exist. The category "Roman Catholic sportspeople" is defunct. However, there is a category "Roman Catholics". The point is, is this correct? I know his former wife Laura is a Catholic (friend of a friend). Did Frank convert and become baptised when he married (there is a category "Roman Catholic converts")? Was he already baptised? It is possible to be a Christian and not be baptised (just about), but it is an essential prerequisite for being a Catholic. In the absence of supporting evidence ( a press report for example), this is a [citation needed]. Guy 01:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Bruno's Big Box[edit]

There is not an article for the ZX Spectrum game Frank Bruno's Big Box. This category links back to the Frank Bruno article. Until the article exists about the game, the category is not valid. Guy 01:43, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article explicitly mentions the game, so I don't see the problem. Cheers --Pak21 08:18, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ghostbusters?[edit]

I'm pretty certain that Frank wasn't Winston in any part of the Ghostbusters franchise, he definitely wasn't in the original movies (as the article implies). Pure rubbish, or an obscure 'Busters movie?Holypeanut 23:47, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Left hook?[edit]

The punch that hurt tyson would seem not to have been a left hook as described in the main article.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doM8KeBrF5Y —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.8.128.180 (talk) 04:14, 15 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Knockout %[edit]

The trivia section says this: "Bruno has 38 knockout wins from 40 victories; which is a 95% knockout record and gives Bruno one of the highest knockout percentages in heavyweight boxing history."

However, Bruno has 2 losses to Tyson and he beat McCall on a decision (according to the partial career history), so surely it's - 37 KO's out of 40 fights. Either that or the career history is wrong.

The career history @ http://www.forward-analysis.com/hamlet/fights.htm was given to me by Frank himself - it shows a total of 45 fights, 5 losses, 40 wins, 38 by ko/tko. He had two points verdicts: Phil Brown and Oliver McCall. Bazward (talk) 11:49, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dundee[edit]

It may be interesting to note that he is handing out trophies at an amateur boxing night at liquid nightlub in dundee very soon, proceeds go to the charity 'scope' —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdbennet (talk • contribs) 19:07, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Biological miracle[edit]

Frank is stated to have had a child in May 2006 with someone he met 5 years ago. Reading about this in February 2011 I find it difficult to believe that this is what the writer of this section intended to say!86.29.62.148 (talk) 20:02, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Battle with mental illness[edit]

On Friday 13 April 2012, an email was sent to numerous UK publishers from lawyers representing Frank Bruno that their client had been detailed under the Mental Health Act. The order stated that it would breach the former boxer's Article 8 rights under the Human Rights Act if this medical information were to be published.

On Saturday 14 April, there were no reports of this. However by Sunday 15 April, both the Sunday Mirror and the Sun on Sunday featured the news prominently on their front pages - both containing quotes on Bruno's battle against mental illness. All the material was provided by Bruno's PR Dave Davies.

It does makes you wonder if the right to privacy under the Human Rights Act, as quoted in the lawyers' letter, has just come to mean the right to keep things on the QT until a celebrity PR team has come up with the best strategy on how to spin the story...?

The sad news here and here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.252.8 (talk) 11:20, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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There should be a New Category: Sports people with Bi-polar.[edit]

There should be a New Category: Sports people with Bi-polar. The main Bi-polar Cat. too large. I came here wanting to see a Cat. of Bi-polar Sports people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.156.145.206 (talk) 06:41, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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