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Long live Channel 6 and the Action News theme song! :)

-Jeff Ryan King of Prussia, PA

Great information for such a legendary piece of music. It isn't just a news theme. >Andrew in Columbus

Interesting that the theme was used in Latin America, as I have thought that it was mainly an American theme, does anyone have these clips from Latin America using the theme? Post your info on here! - P.R., New Jersey.

Maybe we should create a table like in the Action News article of station that have used the theme? I'd get on that once school ends in May. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.150.236.9 (talk • contribs)

I don't think we need to. There's already a link to the relevant page on SouthernMedia. - Hinto 17:21, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Someone should add under references in popular culture the interview on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart where the guest was David Boreanaz. Stewart was raised in Trenton, NJ, Boreanaz is the son of Philadelphia's Action News' Dave Roberts. They discussed the "awesomeness" of the theme and ended up singing it and dancing around the stage.- JB, Philadelphia, PA

11-note section[edit]

WPVI also uses a loop of a much different section of the song - an eleven-note section of horn stabs ("dun DUN, DUN...dun DUN, DUN...DUN, DUN...dun DUN DUN...") - that occurs once in the full song at a key change following the vocal section and leading to the reprise of the main theme. This should probably be listed as a different cut of the song (Action News used it frequently before and after commercial breaks) but it isn't included in the TV Music Museum list of cuts (implying that the loop was created by WPVI, not Mayoham Music). Is there a name for this eleven-note break? Has it been heard anywhere outside of the Philly area? --72.225.186.65 (talk) 16:47, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New Info.[edit]

There's a book called "News Is People: the rise of local TV news and the fall of news from New York" and it states further history on how MCTYW formed. This Link shows page 128 of the book. Also according to the book, Walter Liss wrote the actual lyrics to MCTYW, as he was the co-writer with Al Ham. Csworldwide1 (talk) 13:02, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Culture of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania[edit]

Yes, those who watch/watched WPVI-TV news are used to associating the song with the images of City Hall and such shown in the shows opening. However, comparisons to Rocky are off base. The movie, for better or for worse, still generates buzz in a "what to do when you visit Philly" kind of way: run up the Art Museum steps, take your photo with the statue (but don't bother with the actual museum), South 9th, plaque at a racist eatery, etc. Find a general article about Philly of any depth and a mention of Rocky is anything but surprising. No one, however, says, "While in town, be sure to tune in to the 11:00 news on channel 6..." (Searching just visitphilly.com for "Rocky" gives close to 35,000 results.)

Putting aside Rocky, there is really rather little on the web about the song in reliable sources (note the crappy sources section). Yes, blogs about growing up in Philadelphia mention the song, but more of them mention "stoop" or "brick". I don't see sourcing indication this is a defining aspect of the song.

More as an aside, a thought experiment: Who knows of this association? It certainly isn't widespread outside of the city. Outside of the area, there are likely more people who have heard the song on their local news than have any clue it has ever been used anywhere else (let alone in Philly). In the area, only a fraction of the population has repeatedly seen the opening montage of Philly locations with the music running. Many probably associate the song with channel 6 news (no shock). Compare this to "Gonna Fly Now", that many people probably associate with South 9th and the Art Museum steps. Do both of the songs belong in the category? In the average person's mind, the second one probably evokes select locations in Philly (and is used for that purpose in films and TV shows). However, "Gonna Fly Now" is not in the category (and, I would argue, doesn't belong in it). Also not in the category: Rocky, "Eye of the Tiger", etc. - SummerPhD (talk) 13:09, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Whether anyone outside the Philadelphia area has heard this song or is aware of the Action News format is completely irrelevant. How aspects of that culture is perceived, or whether aspects of it are even commonly known outside the local group does not matter, it's visibility or popularity with outsiders is not a factor in a thing being cultural or not. If we take culture to mean "the beliefs, customs, arts, etc., of a particular society, group, place, or time" this song is clearly a part of Philadelphia culture for it has been a part of Philadelphia and the day-to-day lives of many Philadelphians for over forty years. Marteau (talk) 16:55, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Concrete fits your definition of "culture". This song would then be part of the culture of many places, from Buffalo, New York to Melborne, Australia. Yes, every song is clearly part of culture. "Happy Birthday To You" is a part of culture. That it has been repeatedly performed in Philadelphia means it is a part of Philadelphia culture. It is, however, a trivial part of that culture. I am unaware of any sources that consistently define either song as being part of the culture of Philadelphia, let alone this being common. Yes, the song is part of the culture of Philadelphia (and Buffalo, Melbourne, etc.). No, this is not a meaningful, defining characteristic of the song. - SummerPhD (talk) 20:23, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Not my definition of "culture", and not "OR", but from a dictionary. The "concrete" argument let me know where your coming from immediately with crystal clarity and I appreciate that. No tag for this one! Marteau (talk) 03:43, 21 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Dictionary says culture (of Philadelphia) is _________. (A) That seems to fit this song. (B) Therefore this song is culture (of Philadelphia). (C)
A + B = C is WP:SYN, part of WP:OR.
More to the point (which is where my "concrete" idea comes in) is that categories are intended to be used for defining characteristics of a subject. Sources discussing this song (or concrete) do not regularly define the subject as being part of the culture of Philadelphia. - SummerPhD (talk) 04:01, 21 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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