Talk:Étude

Aeolian Harp

why "Aeolian Harp" under See Also?

See the "Aeolian harps in literature and music" section. I agree that it makes little sense, though. — Pladask 09:18, May 12, 2005 (UTC)

If anyone makes a stub about Chopin's 25/1 etude, we can move the 'see also' there... it certainly doesn't belong here. Maybe I'll try to write the stub, as soon as I'll manage. --Missmarple 20:44, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

List of etude composers

I moved the stubbish list of etude composers into separate section. I think this list could grow into one similar to that of the string quartet article. I suggest it is sorted chronologically by birth date like the string quartet composer list; That way we'll get a nice and natural separation of "technical" etudes from "musical" etudes. Any thoughts? — Pladask 16:58, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea. I'm going to add some of the composers that I found while surfing on amazon.com (according to these links: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10]... more to come) and also some composers according to the regulations of the Val Tidone competitions. --Missmarple 10:42, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Do Godowsky's paraphrases on Chopin's etudes count as etudes, too? --Missmarple 16:19, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

In my opinion they do. I was just about to add them. — Pladask 18:20, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

What about Hanon's exercises? Should the article at least mention them? -Missmarple 15:38, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Pius Cheung

This looks like it may be a conflict-of-interest edit; the issue has already arisen on CheungPius's talk page. I would say it can go if if it's published and there are reviews available to indicate that it is notable. Otherwise, not. Sorry to be difficult like this, but since we want to be a solid reference source it is necessary for us to err on the side of caution.

Here is what I removed:

• Pius Cheung (born 1982): wrote Étude in e minor for the marimba

Opus33 06:28, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Mike Oldfield

Mike Oldfield has a track named Etude on his Killing Fields soundtrack. Is this an 'étude' in the sense of this article, i.e. was it written as a practice exercise? Thanks in advance for answering. Ryancolm 13:48, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

"Etudes" in other art forms

Is the word not at all used in other art forms' context, such as theatre, dance, etc? (In some languages it is). Even if not, should this article perhaps refer to articles on "etudes" in other arts?90.190.225.121 (talk) 12:54, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Study cf. étude

It is just as common to talk of "the Chopin studies" as "the Chopin études", etc. There's no good reason for insisting on the use of a French word when an English one is available and means exactly the same thing. The article reads as if all these composers wrote "études", but none of them would ever have dreamed of writing mere "studies". Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that flavour of snobbery seems to be there. It would be rectified if something could be said about the choice of terminology. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 22:29, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I do believe you're reading too much into it. It's just that the French word étude seems to be used much, and I mean much more frequently than the English translation study. To take your Chopin example, a basic Google search gives some 86,000 results for "Chopin etudes" vs. some 18,000 for "Chopin studies" (and many of these are for scholarly articles, not compositions) – so it doesn't seem that it is just as common to talk of "the Chopin studies". I guess after French composers and Liszt established the pattern, and popular works by Russian composers such as Rachmaninoff cemented it (because the Russian term этюд is derived from the French étude), many composers simply used étude without second thoughts.

At any rate, I wouldn't object to an explanation at the beginning of the article, but I can't think of any good sources. The New Grove article for such pieces is titled "Study", but it makes to attempt whatsoever to describe the popularity of the French term, and simply refers to everything as "studies". --Jashiin (talk) 12:00, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm a bit puzzled by this, and in particular the claim that the French term is much more widely used. I do not recall ever hearing the French term used in speech through my musical education, and I have two copies of the Chopin works, both titled "Chopin studies" (Augener, English publisher, and the English version of Cortot's Salabert edition). Do Americans _say_ 'Etude', for example? Imaginatorium (talk) 08:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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