Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Afghan Baha'is

Afghan Baha'is was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was KEEP. 4 votes to keep, 3 votes to delete. This vote, however, has no bearing on the resolution of the alleged copyright violation of the material. Postdlf 04:22, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Afghan Baha'is

This orphaned article represents an arbitrary intersection of topics. -- WOT 17:59, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

• What it really seems to be is an advert for the website. On the other hand, both Baha'ism and Afghanistan are top-level domains, so to speak, and this is no less arbitrary than an article on the Gallican church or American Methodism (haven't checked that we have such articles, but wouldn't object to them if we did). Keep although watch for POV. — Bill 18:07, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Top-level domains, as you put it, are more likely to produce encyclopaedic topics, but I don't think it is sufficient to indicate a notable intersection. The Gallican church is notable in its own right--as for American Methodism, I'd say probably not; any information appropriate to it would probably be best suited to the main Methodism article or a History of Methodism article. The Afghan-Baha'i intersection would likely yield little of encyclopaedic note that wouldn't fit well in Baha'i. -- WOT 19:19, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Keep, but remove any POV. We have many other articles on a certain religion in a country, e.g. Islam in Canada, Judaism in India, Hinduism in Russia. - SimonP 22:17, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
• Keep, The history of any group in different countries is a valid article. Ratafarianism in Belgium How can Baha'i begin to touch on all the paths the faith has taken in different nations without becoming huge?
• Delete: Baha'i in Afghanistan is simply not at this point something large enough or noticeable enough to be sought by users of the encyclopedia. As such, they should be discussed within the #Religion section of the Afghanistan article. They are not yet a separate church, whereas the American Methodist Church is. If the subject is Baha'i, and you want to talk about it in Afghanistan, then the information should be in the Baha'i article. If the subject is Afghanistan, and you want to say that they now have missionaries from Baptists, Baha'i, and Buddhists, then discuss it in Afghanistan. However, until this religion's expression or history in this particular place is a special subject notable in its own right, it should not be broken free. Geogre 04:50, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Keep, move to cleanup. Significant topic. Wile E. Heresiarch 18:46, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Delete and start again wikipedia:copyvio of this http://www.afghanbahais.org/afghanbahais.htm

I put in the copyright violation notice as instructed. Feel free to correct if I am wrong. Mozzerati 20:32, 2004 Oct 22 (UTC)

• Abstain. I don't think the history of any group in different countries is a valid article -- in this case only, the ability to write an interesting article could be proof of notability. In other words, by my standards, it's not non-notable by nature, but may be non-notable by specific fact. Unfortunately, it's difficult to know ahead of time whether it's possible to write such an article or not -- whether the specifics of the topic provide such material. If it is possible, I hope it is done. If not, I won't be bothered by a deletion. --Improv 16:58, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like other '/delete' pages is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion or on the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.

So what happen? Is it being deleted and not created again?