Talk:Ted Sorensen

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Uhh.. is that last part proven?

I modified the language a bit. While Kennedywas important, evidence points to Sorenson at least as an important contributor.

dino 20:40, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Name? Sorensen or Sorenson?[edit]

There seems to be some degree of confusion about his name. Relevant searches in Google clearly suggest that writers on the Internet mostly prefer to call him Sorensen. Among the websites prefering this spelling are John F. Kennedy Library and Museum.--Troels Nybo 12:38, 20 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. When you search JFK Library, you get 97 with Sorensen and 12 answers to Sorenson. And some of the latter are used in the library forum, which are documents of newer dates normally prefering the -son version. So it should be corrected. --Hansjorn 21:01, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
Someone seems to have put a diacretic mark on the "o" (whcih I think is Swedish or Norweigan). This is crazy (or an act of pretension). Sorensen would never have used this, any more than someone of German ancestry would continue to use an umlaut (countless other examples spring to mind...) His used the americanisation for his name.
His name is quoted as "Ted Sorenson" by C-SPAN during his appearance on 10/17/2007 at the JFK School of Government to discuss the Cuban missile crisis. Evan Chaney (talk) 16:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Article says he's of Danish ancestry. Assuming this, then his name is sEn, duhh! But beyond that: really, anyone with sense is not going to decide the issue by the Kennedy library, they'll check sites like booksellers or libraries to see how his *publishers* spell his name. Hurmata (talk) 03:22, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Being a grandson of a Danish immigrant to America surnamed "Sorensen" I can witness to the constant unintentional mistakes of respelling "Sorensen" to "Sorenson" by the generally disinterested public. Several uncles have gave up and legally changed their name to use the "o" ending, having given up the struggle.

Given this discussion it's worth pointing out that his name attached to his photo at the top of the article is misspelled as "Sorenson" instead of the correct Sorensen. Someone may wish to correct it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6080:C402:2A45:29CE:B7B:5B3D:CE0E (talk) 01:06, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Profiles in Courage: Did Sorensen Write It?[edit]

"...it was clearly Sørensen that provided most of the work that went into the end product." Clear to who? Certainly not to me. Kennedy's handwritten "notes" were probably a lot more than that, I'll bet. And Good Grief - an affidavit from Sorensen, for crying out loud. These count a heck of a lot more to me that some probably partisan historian's "analysis". (Look up affidavit in Wikipedia to see what I mean.)

Sorensen, in his 2008 memoir Counselor, admitted to having written large sections of Profiles in Courage, and even reluctantly confessed that "he may have" bragged about writing the book at Washington cocktail parties and such. To keep him quiet Sorensen stated that JFK made him a "generous" offer which included half of the book's royalties. Several respected historians have confirmed this account, including Herbert Parmet in his 1980 biography Jack: The Struggles of John F. Kennedy, and historian Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. in his Journals, 1952-2000. The fact that none of this is even so much as mentioned in this article - and this was a major news story involving Sorensen, both at the time and later - is yet another example of Wiki whitewashing certain articles to exclude anything "embarrassing" about the subject being discussed, imo. 184.3.106.126 (talk) 19:21, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I should add that there is an entire Wiki article on Profiles in Courage which discusses the controversy. I would suggest that, at the very least, a link to this article be provided in this article on Sorensen. Given that historians have extensively written about this controversy, I would think that an article on Sorensen should at least make mention of it. 184.3.106.126 (talk) 20:06, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Advised by college adviser, not by a U.S. Senator[edit]

A previous editor said that the reason Sorensen applied for a job on the staff of Sen. JFK was he was advised to do so by "Illinois Senator Paul Douglas" and cited an article at ABC News online as the source. I checked the article and it says something else. The article is spread over four Web pages and there didn't seem to be a utility to show it as a single page. On the third page, it says that Sorensen was advised by "his college adviser" to lie about his age in order to be eligible to apply for the job. I've made the corresponding change in the article. Hurmata (talk) 03:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Editor who objected to "took a year off his age"[edit]

User:Garkbit (whose User page is effectively blank) denounced "off his age" as "unnecessary quirky phrase". "Take a year off your age" means misrepresent your age as one year less than the true value. "Took a year to join Kennedy's office" means he spent an entire year taking steps that led to his being hired by Kennedy's office; it does not mean he spent a year working for Kennedy. The latter was of course not the intended meaning. Hurmata (talk) 21:27, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If the other editor is indeed a native speaker, then to have made an error of this nature, they have to be some 11 year old or so, which would explain their ignorance of such a phrase. Hurmata (talk) 21:37, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For English as a Second Language people, the text referred to is in the third of four pages of the Web resource. It reads,

Graduating first in his class at University of Nebraska Law School, Sorensen -- at the advice of his college adviser -- took one year off his age to get a job as a legal aide in Kennedy's Senate office.

"The rest is history," he said.

(If someone wants to edit the WP article to say "took one year" instead "took a year", feel free to do so.) The passage means that Senator Kennedy had set a maximum age limit for eligibility for the position, and that Sorensen's college adviser had encouraged Sorensen to lie about his age. Hurmata (talk) 21:46, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rhetoric[edit]

Perhaps more could be said on his speech writing style and its reception. (Though for me it always feels like someone trying to redo or not being able to avoid redoing Julius Caesar) Tsinfandel (talk) 12:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Mother of sons[edit]

The article seems to imply Sorensen's current wife is the mother of all the children. He was married to Camilla and divorced her apparently in the early days of working for Kennedy. From his book Counselor it appears the sons come from this first marriage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.83.186.248 (talk) 05:20, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

External link to interview on nuclear policy?[edit]

Would an interview with Theodore Sorensen from 1986 be useful here as an external link? Focus of conversation is nuclear weapons policy. http://openvault.wgbh.org/catalog/V_5E604A7924124D9EAFED090FA8FCA2AD (I helped with the site, so it would be conflict of interest for me to just add it.) Mccallucc (talk) 16:30, 24 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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