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Series finale?

I checked Yahoo's news feature and google, and the only reference I could find to Queer Eye taping its final episode was on this page. Until there's some some sort of confirmation, I'd say this is just a rumor. Multiverse 09:37, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

It's true that Bravo have not officially confirmed (i.e. sent out a press release), but it's by no means a rumor, nor is it unconfirmed. At least two of the show stars have repeatedly said in interviews that they were leaving the show this summer and all these interviews are online. Search on Blogger or LiveJournal (many QE staffers have blogs) or Carson's official site or any QE forum - this is being widely discussed by fans and amongs the cast and crew online, and has been confirmed in e-mails and blog and forum posts. Bravo have photos from the wrap party on their website so they're not going to any lengths to hide it, they're just not promoting the fact it's ending. Queer Scout 10:47, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I've changed the wording to make it more open (clarifiy it hasn't been officially confirmed and might come back in some other form). If you feel it needs to be changed further lets discuss it here.

I do think it's is worth mentioning because, apart from the stuff in my post above, the fact that the filming has wrapped is unusual enough to be noted. Having a wrap party. Wrapping up production (letting staffers go, breaking the set). Even finishing filming at all because they normally only take one week breaks with a month long break in the winter (rather than being like a sitcom that always wraps for the summer), and even on those breaks, production still continues. Plus if you look at recent interviews given by the cast, not only do they (well, some of them) make it clear they don't want to do the show anymore and are moving on, but they talk about their future plans and some of them have plans until the end of the year. I do agree there is a possibility Scout could put the show back into production in the future in some format, which I added to the page, but I feel it should be mentioned that the show as it is now is no longer. Queer Scout 11:30, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Could you provide a URL to news on this? When I go to the Queer Eye site, there are general pics of the cast, but no wrap party I can see. (And it's not unusual for a show's cast to do a SEASON finale party, anyway.) I've checked the QE message board and Carson Kressley's site, and I didn't find anything on this at all. I'm not accusing you of making it up, but so far I haven't found anything to back it up and until I see some sort od evidence, someplace, I think this should be treated as a rumor. If you can provide any sort of link, by all means, feel free to restore your previous version. Multiverse 09:41, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey. I'm not going to revert until they make it official because I've had a lil hand slapping for talking about it (oops!) You can remove it if you like.

If you're curious the photos from the wrap party are on BravoTV's exec's blog and fabfivefans.com/photos (June 2006 events), and the show ending is being discussed on Carson's site's forum >Queer Eye> New Episodes thread, last few pages, and TWOP's Queer Eye thread, last few pages. The LJ stuff seems to be all friends locked. Jai Rodriguez interviews about leaving are on tszuj-it.com fansite, articles> Jai. Queer Scout 11:58, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

In this interview Jai says they have not been asked back for another season and that everyone is working on other jobs.

http://www.afterelton.com/people/2006/7/jai2.html

195.93.21.68 09:40, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Jai and the rest of the Fab Five made an appearance at Club XL in New York on June 26, they talked about recently filming the last episode and the show ending. There are some fan videos from this event. 172.216.91.35

That site posted an update sometime later, saying the show is being renewed: "Editor's Update, August 2, 2006: Although Jai was not misquoted here, a Bravo spokesperson contacted AfterElton to say that a whole new season of Queer Eye is slated for 2007, and that Queer Eye remains the core of their Tuesday night strategy." It's on that page, now. Multiverse 13:24, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

QueerScout has posted confirmation of the show's final airing season. not great news, but we knew it was coming, and at least we have a confirmation. thanks QS! -- Denstat 19:57, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Original culture person

They should included something about Jai not being the original person for culture, but i don't know who the original guy was, or why he was replaced.--69.171.35.198 17:42, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Irrelevant music references

Sorry, but I think it's ridiculous to include long, detailed biographies of the artists who have had songs featured, but who have absolutely no connection with Queer Eye beyond that. Information on the songs used is fine, but all the additional info about the artists' career histories and lives is just crazy. There is ZERO connection between the personal lives of some European band, or the total career successes over the years of a singer, and this show, simply because they happened to have one song featured on some spinoff merchandise. Many celebrities who have actually appeared on the show are not mentioned here; this link is substantially more tenous. Anyway how come some of the songs have short entries and some have total biographies? Please remember this is an entry for the TV show Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, not a place to promote your favorite band.

Tone error?

I'm not sure why you took out

>Indeed, many other gay people praised the program for its matter-of-fact portrayal of openly gay men as well as for its mostly warm-hearted approach which is so at variance with other reality TV programs

or what sort of "tone error" you think such a sentence creates. Please explain or I'm going to put it back in. The above sentence describes quite well the general reaction to the series when it first debuted in the US. Moncrief, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

see: User:Hyacinth/Style guide. Hyacinth

Sluggy Freelance

I don't personally read Sluggy Freelance, but I do recognise it as a popular webcomic. Yet, I think I agree with Montcrief's deletion of the reference - as Sluggy Freelance does not specifically concern issues of masculinity, nor does it continually reference Queer Eye, it isn't necessary to mention it in the article. Just a thought. Rhymeless 04:52, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

Soundtrack song list

Why is the soundtrack song list longer than everything else in the article combined? Are descriptions of each song really necessary? -Branddobbe 06:08, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC)

Maybe the soundtrack could be its own article. Jonathunder 15:51, 2005 Jan 19 (UTC)

QE Straight Girl

Future plans the company has toyed with include a Queer Eye for the Straight Girl show, now reported to be in the works, as well as a presumed-to-be-one-time show called Queer Eye for the Gay Guy, in which the Fab 5 helped another gay guy out. This ran during Gay Pride month, June.

If it's a "future plan" and "ran during Gay Pride month", did it happen or not? [[User:Livajo|力伟|☺]] 23:42, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Public Reaction

I was thinking. With how much gay stuff there is going on, there had to be some public reaction when the show went on. If it's in the article, give it it's own spot.-Babylon pride 15:41, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Personally I'm amazed the LGBT community never responded with outrage to the show, because its whole premise hinges entirely on homosexual stereotypes. I know that I was deeply offended when it was first announced, because to me it seemed to be a step back for the LGBT community.

In the UK

Could someone please add the UK version either in this article, or it's own. --andrewI20^Talk 22:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

someone did this previously. feel free to fact-check the info! -- Denstat 05:28, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

This is the fab 5?

Who made the link from fab 5 to this? Anyone remotely knowledgable in sports considers the fab 5 to be the near dream team which was the Michigan Wolverines basketball team in 1991. This excerpt is taken from the "chris webber" page: While at Michigan, Webber led the group known as the Fab Five, which included himself, Juwan Howard, Jalen Rose, Jimmy King, and Ray Jackson. This group, all of whom entered Michigan as freshmen in the fall of 1991, took the basketball team to the NCAA finals twice. The Fab Five, sporting long, baggy shorts and black shoes, became immensely popular as they were seen as bringing a hip hop flavor to the game. Four of the Fab Five (Webber, Rose, Howard, and King) made the NBA, and three of them (Webber, Rose and Howard) are still playing today.

The fab 5 changed basketball forever - at least the clothing style. Not to mention being famous for the scandal that destroyed the michigan basketball program. if i called myself god, could the god page redirect to "Vir Singh" (my name)?

quick note, "fab 5" redirects here, but "fab five" goes to a disamiguation page which i had not previously seen. i would fix the first one, but i dont know how.

Fixed, thanks for catching that. The Michiganders are important, but the nickname has been given to several other groups as well; it was even used on the cover of Rolling Stone for the pop group Duran Duran. — Catherine\^talk 18:10, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Australian Version

Is it really appropriate that the failed Australian "series" (if three episodes can be called a series) should have its own section and take up such a large amount of the entry, when there are literally dozens of foreign versions of Queer Eye, none of which have more than a brief mention? There is already a section detailing the multiple foreign versions. I suggest either that section be expanded to include equal info on each of them, or the Australian info section deleted. Bumblee2006 08:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

i agree that an entire australian section is not appropriate, but suggest instead that a new section be created for all the spin-offs (possibly called "Spinoffs") to replace it beneath a more svelte Overview section. everything can go under there, and good ol' australia can benefit from a trim, too. comments, or shall we proceed? -- Denstat 19:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I think that's a very good idea. I'd help if I had time. I'd say proceed.Queer Scout 19:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

okay, it's done. if any show data has been inadvertently misinterpreted in the edit, feel free to correct it. citations and references would be even better! i cut back the australian verison info, but created the box because it serves as an example, and a visual contrast to the original cast. :) -- Denstat 05:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I know for a fact that a Swedish version was created. It was cancelled, though. I don't know how long it lasted. IIRC, there was a Norwegian version as well. They cancelled that one pretty quickly as well. I don't know how long it lasted either. :P.

FallenAngelII

Official Name Change

To clarify, the official name of the show IS just "Queer Eye." Bravo and Scout decided to change the name during the second year, this decision was made partly because our own exhaustive research showed that this name was used far more than the original full name, and secondly because we had expanded the show to include makeovers on all sorts of people, not just on straight men. You will only see the title "Queer Eye" appear on the official website, and any magazine or newspaper article anyone associated with the show does. As the name is the official name of the show and the only name used by the show itself, and as it is far more widely used, and as this page refers to the entire show (including all the episodes that were not about straight guys), and all straight girl and other versions, it is preferable not to use our shortlived original name. The analogy with "The United States of America" not always being used is inaccurate as that actually is the full name of the country. "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" is NOT the name of the show and has not been for a long time. Queer Scout 11:54, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

It might not hurt to add a source regarding the name change, to discourage someone moving this article to the original title. 23skidoo 22:52, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I changed the beginning of the article to reflect that Queer Eye is the name of the show currently, with the long name as the original name. It still needs a source, however. AEMoreira042281 04:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Structure/TOC changes

i took a stab at more re-structuring, cutting down the Overview section which was getting a bit chubby, and re-distributing the info into new sections Cast, Critical Response and Trivia (often found in series articles). i would suggest working next on getting a workable References section rather than adding a Quotes section -- those exist elsewhere online (although an external link might be okay). i think that if we do this, we're on our way to achieving a wiki-worthy encyclopedic tone that is not a fansite, although i freely admit to fandom. :) -- Denstat 18:41, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Citation

just want to say thanks to QueerScout for working hard recently with citations! everything is looking so much better. wish i had more time to help, but good for you! -- Denstat 19:57, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

these items in Parodies may all be true, but until citations are added, i have removed them from the main article, as uncited material brings down article credibility. as soon as anyone finds a citation for any of them, feel free to move it back to the section. thanks! -- Denstat 14:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

The Disney Channel animated series Kim Possible featured an episode entitled Dimension Twist, which had Kim and Ron sucked into the 'television dimension' and meeting the stars of a program entitled 'Evil Eye for the Bad Guy'. Two of the three members of the cast, known as the 'Terrible Trio' (a play on the Fab Five tag), are based on Carson and Ted.

Universal Studios in Florida had actors portraying the Fab Five appear in their Bill and Ted Show during their Hallowe'en Horror Nights in 2004. The actors were planted in the audience, and were going to makeover Clark Kent.

The ABC Family movie Campus Confidential featured a Queer Eye-esque group called the Fab Four.

In his comedy act, Jeff Foxworthy talks about how his pitch for his version of Queer Eye where hookers take the place of gay men to improve straight women.

In the Philippines, the Kamikazee band parodized the Fab 5 by creating a spoof called Fag 5 for the Straight Guy in the music video entitled "Ambisyoso".

One episode of Sesame Street had Oscar the Grouch, along with four other grouches, hosting a spoof called "Grouch Eye for the Nice Guy". His team was dubbed the "Flab Five", giving Bob a grouchy makeover, and getting him angry.

Sluggy Freelance has a story arc called "Straight Eye for the Queer Guy," in which Torg and Riff make over two gay brothers in an effort to hide their homosexuality during their father's visit.

queer eye for the g.i.

added it into the parody section, more appropriate but its a good link, cited. and noteworthy^{T ALK}•^QR_C2006•¢ʘñ†®¡ß§ 04:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

hi, i posted a note on your Talk page -- i just saw this cited parody contribution. i think it's likely to be reverted, for two reasons: the actual film description states that it has absolutely no link to the show, and therefore while it plays off the tv series title, it's not a parody (i.e. if it were a gay makeover/orgy, then yes its content would be a parody). the other reason is that your link goes to a page with graphic sexual images & themes, and i may be wrong but i suspect that wikipedia may not allow that kind of adult content linkage. -- Denstat 06:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

well if its not a parody i still think its a noteable piece of pop culture trivia.^{T ALK}•^QR_C2006•¢ʘñ†®¡ß§ 23:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

GA comment

Images need detailed fair use rationales, or the article may be quick-failed by another editor. --Nehrams2020 23:20, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks for the heads-up. I forgot to check them. FU tags added. Otto4711 23:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

GA review

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   Although, i would change the second logo for a screenshot of the show.

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   The book section could use some more information, maybe how well it sold? Anwyay, all in all a GA. Thanks for your work so far. Yamanbaiia (talk) 16:03, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Pictures

I reverted the article to the .PNG pictures for two reasons:

1. The cast photo is not needed to identify the persons in the presence of the logo. 2. A .JPG logo is inferior to a .PNG or .SVG photo. All non photographic images should be in .PNG or .SVG. --AEMoreira042281 (talk) 05:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

it should mention other language versions of it

the norwegian version for example had at least 2 seasons i believe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 (talk) 23:47, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

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GA reassessment

Queer Eye

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Result: failed. Significant issues with GA criteria have been identified and they have not been fixed in a timely fashion. buidhe 01:41, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Large sections of this article are severely lacking in sources, meaning that it fails GA criteria 2: Verifiable with no original research. If this article were being nominated right now for a GA review, I believe it would be quick failed for severely lacking in sources. Was GA nominated in 2007, and the unsourced content was added later, but right now it's nowhere near acceptable as a GA. For example:

• Format section - completely unsourced
• Popular and critical response - two paragraphs completely unsourced
• Spin-off series - completely unsourced
• International adaptations - some text unsourced, most country's spinoff shows are completely unsourced
• Merchandising - four sentences unsourced

All in all, this doesn't meet the standards of verified text required for GA, as there's far too much original research. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:56, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

• Delist per nomination.100cellsman (talk) 05:14, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
• Delist I agree, without citations for verification it cannot be a Good Article. Trillfendi (talk) 07:04, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

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