Talk:The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians

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Humour[edit]

It is nice to see how scholars tricked one another demonstrating their sense of humour. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.54.242 (talk) 23:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unverified statements[edit]

There really are a lot of unverified statements needed citations. For example, "editors likely decided to concentrate on the 2nd edition"; "subject to some negative criticism (e.g. in Private Eye) owing to the significant number of typographical and factual errors that it contains"; "errors were ascribed to the use of students for checking the dictionary"; "although in fact no students were ever employed as editorial staff" (WP:SYNTH?); "It attracted some initial criticism"; "often the first source that English-speaking musicologists use" (WP:PEACOCK?); "exceedingly valuable to any scholar" (ditto). Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 21:44, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Humour[edit]

In the humour section, there is a link to the article about Robert Layton - a politician. Is this right? 142.177.44.20 (talk) 03:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Title[edit]

As far as I can tell, the encyclopedia was never called 'Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians'. It was Grove's. I suggest renaming it to its title since 1980: The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians (now a redirect). --Klein zach 02:27, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That has been the name up until it went online, so that sounds OK to me, and since there's only one edit for that redirect, you won't need an administrator to do it. --Robert.Allen (talk) 03:32, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done --Klein zach 00:02, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

American editions[edit]

AFAIK, all the dates given in the article are for the original British editions, however, looking at old books being sold through the Alibris, it seems that Macmillan were publishing it in New York at least as early as 1904 [1]. I wonder if it's worth listing the New York editions? Perhaps someone has access to a library holding them? --Klein zach 02:39, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've just corrected the dates of the London editions. They were wrong. This may render my question un-necessary. It's possible that it was jointly published in London and New York and there is no difference between the editions, other than the place of sale. --Klein zach 09:20, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch! --Robert.Allen (talk) 02:27, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Minor date discrepancy[edit]

I am looking at the Fifth edition of Grove's. The publication pages show the First edition volumes as published 1878, 1880, 1883, 1899. (as opposed to 1989 for the fourth volume in Wikipedia.) 1889 is slightly more plausible but the book says otherwise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.234.65.51 (talk) 15:36, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We have 1889, not 1989. The Fifth Ed. probably has a typo, similar to yours. Title page of Vol. 4. --Robert.Allen (talk) 15:53, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Date correction: 1899 vs 1900[edit]

I'm looking at a copy of the (Oxford printed Macmillan) four volume reprint that incorporates the index. The title page is dated 1899, rather than the 1900 mentioned in Wikipedia, but I can't find any online reference to quote that would support making the change. 2A02:C7C:CA4C:6100:D115:850E:40EC:719C (talk) 08:49, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]