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Do we need the original Italian terms (camerlengo and doi o tre anni?) Thanks! Dpr 04:32, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

It is said that Erasmus Darwin, the grandfather of Charles Darwin, preserved a vermicelli noodle in a glass case until the point where it, by some unexplainable means, began to move with voluntary motion. This experiment was mentioned during the classroom scene of Mel Brooks’ Young Frankenstein. (This is actually from Mary Shelly's novel Frankenstein. Thats why its mentioned in Mel's parody. The actual experiment was not with vermicelli but some microbe with a similar sounding name. Mary was simply confused when she brought it up in her novel. Can someone else look up the sources for this. I found it in the Annotated Frankenstein)

Vermicelli Is Actually Thinner Than Spaghetti[edit]

Just ask any pasta manufacturer, or the dictionary: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/vermicelli?&path=/ 76.29.225.28 (talk) 23:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm confused about why the description says vermicelli is thinner than spaghetti, yet the table of measurements still lists it as thicker.2601:1:9780:371:217:F2FF:FE37:5766 (talk) 19:28, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The picture is wrong. The dictionary clearly says vermicelli is thinner, and if you've ever bought a box, you would see the manufacturers say this too. Vermicelli is my pasta of choice specifically because it's thinner.76.29.225.28 (talk) 05:54, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Someone keeps changing it back to, "thicker than spaghetti," in spite of the evidence to the complete opposite. There are no sources provided that vermicelli is actually thicker (because it's not), so someone must be on a vandalism campaign. As such, I've removed the first source (as it was nothing more than a recipe site with no evidence for anything more than how to cook with vermicelli), and replaced it with the dictionary, which actually says vermicelli is thinner. The fact that you actually have a documented source now for vermicelli's relative size compared to spaghetti should affect this vandal's activity. I don't know what to do about that fake picture, though. Perhaps one of you Wikipedia-types will replace it or remove it entirely.76.29.225.28 (talk) 16:29, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The resolution to this conundrum is that in Italy, "vermicelli" refers to a round-section pasta larger than Spaghetti, while in the United States (and perhaps elsewhere) it is smaller. For evidence of this I direct you to: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermicelli which says: "...a sezione rotonda con diametro più grande degli spaghetti", which means "of a round section with diameter larger than spaghetti". I think it would be a service to modify the article to note this difference in usage. I started investigating this issue when I encountered a box of Pasta in a store in Rome labeled "vermicelli", which were considerably larger than Spaghetti. I assumed it must have been an error in manufacturing, but the people working in the shop confirmed that they were vermicelli. Thinking it might be a regional difference I checked again in Tuscany, and found the same thing-- larger than spaghetti. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.29.235.196 (talk) 20:16, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Handbook of Cereal Science and Technology [1] Vermicelli no more than 1.5mm, spaghetti more than 1.5 to 3 mm. Then there's [2] Italian may be thicker, but not in America/UK etc. Dougweller (talk) 18:31, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Vermicelli vs. spaghetti: trivia on the historic use of these two words[edit]

Did you know that vermicelli is actually an old name for spaghetti? The word spaghetti seems to have entered the Italian language only in the 19th century or, at least, that's when it is first documented in a written text: Li maccaroni di Napoli ("The macaroni of Naples") by Antonio Viviani, written in 1824. Earlier than that, spaghetti was usually referred to as vermicelli or maccheroni in written texts, though we can't know if the word spaghetti was already in use in the vernacular language: since it is not documented before that date, one can assume that it was at least not as common as vermicelli or maccheroni, though it has later taken hold in everyday talk.--Teno85 (talk) 03:50, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Vermicelli/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Good start, need more work on refs and such -- Warfreak 00:31, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 00:31, 16 June 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 09:53, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Urdu transliteration wrong[edit]

The spelling from Urdu is pronounced siwaiyyan rather than seviyan

150.101.89.115 (talk) 01:24, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting proposal 8 June 2021[edit]

This page covers two distinct types of pasta (one thicker than spaghetti and the other thinner). It should be split into two pages, perhaps Vermicelli (Italian pasta) and Vermicelli (thin pasta)? --Scudsvlad (talk) 18:19, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree the term vermicelli covers even more than just two types of pasta. It is better to have one article about all varieties of pasta which called in English vermicelli. Delasse (talk) 09:22, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Vermicelli is more than just about the Italian pasta and thin pasta, separately. Even corn vermicelli can count as a vermicelli variant. Hansen Sebastian^Talk 08:45, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not วุ้นเส้น (Wúnsên) in Thai =[edit]

Rice vermicelli in Thailand is come from Chinese Tradition, we also call it liked in Chinese language as หมี่ or เส้นหมี่ in Thai, not วุ้นเส้น (Wúnsên) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2403:6200:88A2:6C58:44CA:8513:A75F:B908 (talk) 17:26, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]