Talk:Heiner Müller

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I've added this template to the article, along with a list with details of his significant plays and adaptations. There may be a few missing, so feel free the add them with the relevant details. You might also want to add the English title (in chronological order) to the template (by clicking on the small 'e' at the top of the template). The template is designed to provide consistency in the naming of individual articles on his plays. If you would like to create an article, please click the relevant link in the template (shown in red if there isn't an article on it already). When creating a new article, please remember to cite your sources (there is a bibliography at the bottom of this article that I've added today - you can copy and paste that for convenience) and please include as much composition and production history as you have available to you. Thanks, DionysosProteus 23:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Old Article[edit]

What follows here is the duplicate article that had been started in 2003, i.e. earlier than this one, under the wrong name Heiner Muller (which is now a redirect to here).

Anything salvagable should be merged.

Heiner Müller (1929-1995), dramatist, theatre director, poet, anarchist. He died on December 30, 1995, age 66, of throat cancer.

Heiner Muller's Hamletmachine, opens with the famous end of European culture, "I was Hamlet. I stood at the shore and talked with the surf BLABLA, the ruins of Europe behind me."

Asked for his opinion about what might constitute the truly postmodern drama and theater, Heiner Muller replied: 'The only postmodernist I know of is August Stram, who was a modernist and worked in a post-office'.

In the book Germania (NY: Autonomedia) Muller argues that Capitalism & Socialism have proven to be simply two different ways to control production & ensure the discipline of work. & that, since the "end of ideologies" in the West, all people have begun to question the validity of ideological conflict.

See the online Anarchist Encyclopedia.

Anarchist? Did he claimed it somewhere? -- Arne List 02:37, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you take the term in its broadest sense, I think you might be able to make an argument for that. I seem to remember that in Germania he identifies himself with the Autonomia of Antonio Negri et al., but I'd have to go check that, as it's been a while since I looked at it. DionysosProteus 17:30, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tell us about his work ;-)[edit]

This is a good basic biography, but at the moment it tells us little about Heiner Müller's work. His work has been categorised by some as "post-narrative theatre". What does this mean in Müller's case? I know very little more about him than this unfortunately. Ireneshusband 20:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not able to expand on this point in the article right now, but I agree there is much, much more to say about Müller's drama and theatre practice. It would be useful if you could provide a citation for the use of 'post-narrative theatre'. In terms of what Müller says about his work, it would refer to his critique of the Brechtian practice of a clear Fabel. There is a similar shift away from a Fabel dramaturgy in the work of Müller's British contemporary Caryl Churchill. DionysosProteus 17:34, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Causality[edit]

Was he a smoker?Lestrade (talk) 18:22, 21 May 2010 (UTC)Lestrade[reply]

family[edit]

His father's name is said to be Kurt Müller. Any connection to the known Kurt Müller of the III.Reich? A German journalist, in a biography on Heiner Müller, a certain Mr. J. Fiebach, has an allusion to Kongo-Müller hidden in a word-play on Heiner Müller. Anything true in the background?

There is need of a larger biography on Heiner Müller in English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.115.83.247 (talk) 20:34, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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