User talk:Nanshu/Archive002

Just a friendly question ... I respect your work greatly and am just wondering how you know so many freaking languages. That's all ;-)

Mgmei 19:50, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I'm just interested in writing systems. The only language I can speak fluently is Japanese... --Nanshu 01:21, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

On Talk:East Sea you write you don't want to get involved in the Sea of Japan/East Sea issue. However, if I look at your contributions, almost all of the 50 most recent ones are instances where you are quite heavily involved. I just wanted to express my disapproval of your attempts to enforce your view. Kokiri 21:55, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Year, after five-month silence, jacta alea est. I know that I get involved in damn long discussions. --Nanshu 01:50, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure I understand your reply. I do want to apologies for my harsh note here, though. Kokiri 12:39, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I personally think "Shimousa" is better. Usually, I am against using "ou" to romanize おう, but in this case, we have two kanji, shimo + usa, and "Shimosa" just doesn't seem like an accurate romanization. It's like Minoo... if you use the prettier romaji, you lose part of the name. - Sekicho

Re Liancourt Rocks, you may think it's farfetched, but it's what the Koreans claim and deleting it completely without any explanation is vandalism... Jpatokal 03:21, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi User:Nanshu this is User:Technopilgrim. I just merged an article I wrote called Khalkha Jetsun Dampa with the article you originally wrote called Jebtsundamba. I think the merged version is OK now (you can take a look at it and make any improvements you think are necessary). I'm trying to decide what is the best name for the combined article should be and I actually think a third choice would be the best: Jetsun Dampa. This is based on the webpage of the present (9th) Khalkha Jetsun Dampa and how he spells his own name — see the external link at the bottom of the new page. I think it is better to drop the Khalkha as it makes it easier to write links to. Unfortunately I have already created an edit history under Jetsun Dampa which prevents a simple page move to that location — I will need to ask an Administrator to delete my old Jetsun Dampa page before we can reuse the name. Before I do that I wanted to ask you if you agree this is the right way to go? Please take a look at the situation and let me know what you think! technopilgrim 07:38, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)~

After checking further into Aisin Gioro, I have changed it back. However, I have a question for you - why should it be Hong Taiji and not Hongtaiji? Any ideas? Madw 17:00, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Please stop supporting User:Exploding Boy for adminship. He makes innapropriate articles like Finger fucking and Collar (BDSM). Radical WiKi 13:20, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Please answer at Talk:Unit_731#"propaganda photos". --Jia ng 01:18, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I've got some good news. All of the cities in the Greater Tokyo area that are listed in the Greater Tokyo Area article will be in the standard format { city, prefecture } and if applicable, will have their Monbusho (and in some cases, Nippon-shiki and/or JSL) names. WhisperToMe 00:40, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Hey Nanshu, I don't know if this will help or not, but I recently ran across http://www.manjugisun.com/ which seems to be an online scan of Norman's Manchu lexicon. Pretty convenient if you ask me. Regards.

Mgmei 15:28, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

With regards to the Kim Dae-jung article, let me point you to Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers. Thanks for your contributions. Kokiri 09:36, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

The Chinese cannibalism entry seems very interesting and valuable. I do remember something about that in some articles I read. And there is a scene in Tianxia Liangcang(a sitcom about Chinese agricultural policy in Qing Dynasty, I havent read the novel) about the cannibalism during famine. ---yACHT nAVEL 16:48, 24 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

However, the way you have characterized it as "relatively common in China" is so outrageous, it makes one question your motives. None of your sources backs this up. Fuzheado | Talk 04:41, 25 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

So, you know of Ölgiy too? I like spelling it with an Ö most of the time but I am pretty interchangable: either Olgiy, Olgii, Ölgiy or something like that!

Dawit

Now that I've seen Talk:Shimosa Province, I think we should go with what Exploding Boy says, depending on the pronounciation. I thought it was the "first" one. If it is proven to be the 2nd, I'll do the redirect-correcting stuff :) WhisperToMe 21:10, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

--- I see you manually redirected the Kuyuk pages to "Güyüg Khan," this in itself, I suppose, is fine. I was wondering if you had read my response to you in my talkpage, and also what your opinion was on including "Khan" after everyone's name in the page names themselves? I created my Ogedei and Mongke pages from redlinks, so I didn't much question it. But when/if we get down into the petty dynasts, I don't see it as necessary. I'm not sure I like, for example, the name Batu Khan. Even with the great khans--it's incredibly rare for me to see them referenced anywhere with the "khan," except for Chinggis. Correct or not, I don't see it as absolutely necessary, and it automatically doubles the potential amount of redirects. Let me know what you think. Wackyslav 04:03, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

To quote you a bit, "I basically follow the ambiguous Uyghur-Mongolian script and take into consideration modern Khalkha Mongolian for disambiguation. For example, I use -g, -gh, -d, -b instead of -k, -kh, -t, -p for consonantal endings because it is the way Khalkha Mongolian orthography adopts." This sounds like a historical change in the language itself, rather than a factor of script--Khalkha Mongolian seems to turn these unvoiced consonants into their voiced equivalents word-finally. What is done with more modern Mongolian stuff doesn't concern me all too much, but for Guyuk is does. I'm interested in good transcription, but this is also the English wikipedia; and none of the several voluminous sources I have in English have anything but -k. If you don't mind, I'd like to move everything to Güyük Khan. Also on the "khan in page name issue," I don't really have a problem with it for, say, the first five great khans, but when you start getting into less and less well-known historical figures, it's hard to say. Certainly, if I get around to doing the khans of the Ilkhanate and of Kipchak, I don't have any plans to include "khan" in the page names. It's not as if, after all, the presidents of the United States are listed with "President," nor the caliphs of islam, Roman emperors, etc. Let me know what you think. Wackyslav 04:06, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Hey Nanshu,

Take a look at the Official government website of Inner Mongolia. Now, it looks to be that the Mongol script at the top spells out "öbür mongghul", or Southern Mongolia. Wasn't that name supposed to have separatist connotations? Also, Wikipedia gives Dotood Mongolyn Öörtöö Dzasah Oron on the Political divisions of China page, which is nowhere near what I see on the official government website.

So, which one is "Inner Mongolia" and which one is "Southern Mongolia"? Also, what is the official, PRC way of saying "Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region" in Mongolian?

-- ran 04:34, Jul 20, 2004 (UTC)

Another thing: if you have time, can you check / fill in the missing parts of List of administrative divisions of Inner Mongolia?

Thanks.

-- ran 16:36, Jul 30, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply on my talk page — I've made the corrections to the Inner Mongolia and Political divisions of China pages. -- ran 15:09, Aug 7, 2004 (UTC)

Aimags of Mongolia[edit]

Sounds good to me; I believe I pulled the spellings from another online source, and I'm not versed in the standard Romanizations. Thanks. -- Seth Ilys 16:07, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Mongolian romanization[edit]

(Asian Cup and Mausoleum aside... for now :P)

Hi Nanshu:

In trying to sort out the List of administrative divisions of Inner Mongolia, I must be experiencing the equivalent of the Wade-Giles/pinyin confusion... Is it Ulaan Chab or Ulanchab? Is it Hulunbuir or Külün Buyir? Is it Xilin Gol or Xilingol or Sili-yin Ghoul or Shilin'gol?

More generally, can you explain what Mongolian romanization schemes there are out there, what schemes are used by the Mongolian and Inner Mongolian governments, which one(s) I should be using, and how to look them up / convert them from other scripts, etc?

Thanks in advance. -- ran 12:46, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC)

My nomination for adminship[edit]

Hi, Nanshu:

David Cannon has nominated me for adminship on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship. I haven't decided yet if I'll accept, but please feel free to add your opinion to the nomination. If I became an admin, I would not use my admin powers on topics involving East Asian politics; and as you know, you and I have not had any major edit wars in a long time. ;) The deadline is August 25. --Sewing 02:26, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Unit 731 protected[edit]

FYI, I've protected Unit 731 and moved the disputed text/photo to the talk page. Feel free to discuss there. Thanks. Fuzheado | Talk 02:03, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Hi, Nanshu: Thank you very much for congratulating me on becoming an admin. it is exactly because of your possible concern that I notified you of my nomination. I would have welcomed any comment from you, whether for or against! If you thought you couldn't trust me as an administrator, I would have accepted your comment.

Nevertheless, thank you for not opposing my nomination. It was a generous gesture. どうもありがとう御座いました. Yours, Sewing - talk 23:38, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Paik Sun Yup[edit]

Hi, Nanshu: I am impressed by your article on Paik Sun Yup. Can we expect more articles like that in the future? -Sewing - talk 00:30, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)

An oldy but a goody[edit]

About a year and a half ago, you wrote that Emperor Go-Yozei of Japan is considered the father of the Toyotomi family. Is this correct? Wouldn't Toyotomi Hideyoshi be the father of the family? - Nat Kraus e 12:02, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Bias, Nanshu![edit]

I'm a newcomer to Wikipedia. I'd like to ask you a question. Why do you always cast Korea in a bad light? Sometimes, I've noticed that you put blatant POV in articles related to Korea and Japan that often degrade Korea to a subordinate status. I've studied East Asian history at Harvord, and what you say in various articles is often against the truth. I understand that you're Japanese (or at least speak the language), but I hope sincerely that you not put POV language into Korea-Japan articles. From what I hear, Japanese scholars are renowned for distorting the truth, and yet you seem to continue this tradition by downriding historcal facts about Korean-Chinese-Japanese relations while portraying Japan in an unfairly good light. I bet that even you don't properly acknowledge in your heart that Japan learned much from Korea an yet abused it severely later on. As a true Japanese, you should rather acknowledge past events rather than hide them, for that mask Japan has been wearing for so long will eventually melt away. It is better to voluntarily take off that mask of lies than wait until it slis. I hope to see an improvement.

Qing dynasty[edit]

You have made some interesting comments, and I answered them at Talk:Kangxi Emperor#Ethnicity of Kangxi's mother, Template talk:Qing namebox and Talk:Aisin Gioro#Aisin Jiaolue?.

How did you come to learn Manchu? Do you consider yourself fluent? or simply having some beginner's knowledge of Manchu? I am actually looking for some people really expert at Manchu to make some addition to Wikipedia. We need to add all the given names, temple names, and posthumous names of the Qing emperors from Qianlong until Puyi. Could you find that information? I am always suspicious about what's being written relating to Manchu culture, but if you think you can acurately find that information, please add it into the tables that I have created. There's a line reserved for the Manchu name that is waiting to be filled. One question: where did you find the posthumous names of Shunzhi, Kangxi, and Yongzheng?

I was also planning to add the name and ethnicity of the mothers of all the emperors of the Qing dynasty, but maybe you could help me on that, since you seem to have access to some interesting Manchu sources. In particular, could you check what I wrote about the mother of Jiaqing and the mother of the 2nd Prince Chun? I found their mothers were han Chinese, but maybe it's like for the mother of Kangxi, their ancestors were actually Manchu... Have a look and tell me if you can find a reference in your sources.

Finally, I am dreaming of finding someone who could add the Manchu name in Manchu script in the tables (I put the Chinese script already). Do you have any knowledge about inputing Manchu script on computer? Could you do it? I don't even know if the Manchu alphabet has already been encrypted in Unicode. Hardouin 17:59, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Reverts[edit]

Nanshu, there is not much to discuss any further on Unit 731 or Iris Chang unless you bring up any new points. It's been discussed ad nauseum already, and nothing's changed. Also be aware that the community has voted to have the Three Revert Rule to be enforced agagin. Fuzheado | Talk 09:00, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Emperor Mingzong of Yuan China[edit]

I am curious as to why you moved this article? It is more common to see the individual referred to with this name than by their Khan name. The previous/next incumbants are now redlinks, despite these individuals having articles. --[[User:OldakQuill|Oldak Quill]] 16:07, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing[edit]

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

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To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

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Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. – Ram-Man ^{(comment) (talk)}[[]] 13:55, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

Hey, I responded to your comment at Template talk:Qing namebox. Hardouin 15:16, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Unverified image[edit]

Thanks for uploading the image

Image:Giko standard.png

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the image and I'll tag it for you. Thanks, Kbh3rd 03:20, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Yuan Dynasty names[edit]

If you would like to change the convention on Yuan dynasty emperors (and prevent yourself from getting reverted), please post a note at Wikipedia talk:History standards for China-related articles. --Ji ang 01:52, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Dear Nanshu, i thought that a nice diagram such as Image:Yuan genealogy.png and the interesting explanation that you wrote deserved its own article: Yuan Dynasty family tree. If you upload more of these family trees (i hope so) please add them to List of family trees. Happy New Year! muriel@pt 11:49, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)