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I have a few questions, it's for a school project! I hope someone can help me!? I was wondering how do they travel? Like, in packs or alone, or what? Alexa Meadows

I'm not really sure, but I believe they generally are solitary animals. Also, they are quite shy.
It's true; lynx have trouble getting dates.

Do they conduct their behaviour appropriately in pacts or are they independent animals that find that to mate is a challenge in such isolated environments?

62.31.182.171 19:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Colleagues, don't you have a photo of a living Scandinavian lynx? A stuffed one looks ugly and miserable.

Victor Sudakov 212.73.124.9 06:32, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it does. I bet someone has, but a wild lynx is one of the thoughest mammals to get a good photo, since she doesn't eat (mostly) anything she hasn't killed. Only good photos of wild animals I've seen are taken on the den. A picture request might be in order. 88.195.46.112 07:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lynx Grammar[edit]

Question regarding the article's grammar: In several places in the "Status" section the author uses "lynxes" as a plural. I thought the plural was simply "lynx." In other places, for instance in the status of the lynx in Norway, the author uses such phrases as "Lynx was" and "Lynx is." I am assuming this should be "Lynx were" and "Lynx are," but I wanted to get a consensus before editing. --12.154.39.254 18:58, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Both "lynx" and "lynxes" are correct for the plural.[1] - UtherSRG (talk) 19:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Distribution[edit]

According to Reader's Digest North American Wildlife (Mammals, Reptiles and Amphibians) [ISBN 0-7621-0035-4] the L. lynx also lives in Canada, Alaska and small parts of the upper US such as the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. I wont edit the page till others agree, I just wanted to throw that out there. --IvanTortuga (talk) 20:59, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No it doesn't, L. lynx is the Eurasian lynx which lives in Eurasia, the lynxes you're talking about are L. canadensis , the Canada lynx, and L. rufus, the bobcat. Editor abcdef (talk) 05:52, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lynx lynx is ENDANGERED according to the international trade and laws of Russia[edit]

Lynx lynx is listed as "under the threat of extinction" "category II"(literal translation from Russian) in the official letter from the Federal Customs Authority of Russia of January 21, 2005, Number N 06-59/1213. The letter in full can be found at: http://zooclub.ru/zakon/45.shtml

The above-referenced letter lists the species of animals considered as "under the threat of extinction" or, in common terms, ENDANGERED, under the Internation Convention on Trade of Endangered Wild Flora and Fauna (literal translation from Russian in the above-referenced official letter).

Whoever listed lynx lynx as "Least Concern" or "LC" conservation status made an error. I don't know how to edit the "Eurasian Lynx" page. Please help me correct the error because many illegal poachers in Russia and China are very happy to murder little wild Eurasian Lynx kittens by poisoning and sell the pelts to the furriers in Canada and the USA to make fancy coats. Each "Russian lynx" coat uses 18-25 Russian lynx pelts and sells for over $25,000 new and over $5,000 pre-owned. See http://www.purpleshoshana.com/results/details.asp?pc=1867

Please contact me if you need full translation of the Federal Customs Authority of Russia official letter of January 21, 2005 at nataliasid1@yahoo.com. Natalia Sidiakina. Nsidiakinawiki (talk) 00:02, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, Wikipedia always use IUCN Red List first in conservation status, also, some Eurasian lynx populations are endangered, but not the whole species. Editor abcdef (talk) 05:55, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Range: Lynx is also found in Bulgaria[edit]

The absence of Bulgaria from the list of the Balkan countries seems discriminatory... Even if population is low, it's present - it has been filmed severa; times only in 2008 and 2009 in different parts of the country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.83.249.136 (talk) 17:49, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Scandinavian Lynx[edit]

It says under the caption of the "Scandinavian Lynx" "Lynx Lynx Lynx", this can not be correct, or there isn't documentation of a "Lynx Lynx Lynx" on wikipedia. I don't know what the classification of a Scandinavian Lynx is, but I thought I'd call it to attention to be corrected. '''Aryeonos''' (talk) 01:43, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Behavior[edit]

Currently, the "Behavior" section of the article only discusses hunting. Maybe someone knowledgeable on the subject might want to add information on other aspects, such as breeding and social behavior? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.65.213.82 (talk) 15:09, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Distribution in Balkans[edit]

Following recent edits, I think we should clarify the distribution. Here are a few points I have gathered from a quick review.

  1. The IUCN say the Balkan lynx is found in Macedonia, Albania, Kosovo and Montenegro (both redlist and CatSG pages).
  2. The IUCN include Croatia, Serbia and Bulgaria in the Eurasian lynx distribution (geographic range section on redlist page)
  3. The link in the article for the Kora website shows nothing useful for me. However, this link to their English language Lynx in Europe page is more useful. According to the pdf of the Status, management and distribution of large carnivores – bear, lynx, wolf & wolverine – in Europe. Part II (Species country reports) the lynxes in Serbia and Bulgaria are likely Carpathian lynxes.
  4. It's not clear what group the lynxes in Croatia and Bosnia are. The IUCN seems to exclude them from the Balkan lynx subspecies. The IUCN state the Carpathian lynx distibution as "East and Central Europe, inhabiting the Carpathian Mountains". Could that be taken as including Croatia and Bosnia?
  5. The Alpine lynxes of France, Switzerland and Italy and the Bohemian-Bavarian population are also unclear on subspecies. By default anything else probably goes in the nominal subspecies, even though the range is stated as northern Europe and western Siberia.

Before making any changes, I thought it might be helpful to discuss it first.   Jts1882 | talk  14:46, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support strongly in Bulgaria as well: There are at least by my dimension 250 Balkan Eurasian lynxes in Bulgaria. I'm professional shooter, I've sighted with my eyes at least 5 lynxes in my lifetime. Including one in Kostenets around 1996, when by my childish dimension, I was 10-years-old, there mightn't has been more than 100. Now with 25 years later there might be around 250-300. I cannot provide any witnesses or pictures just what we saw several people when the animal attacked a cat by the hotel, but settled on the marmots nearby. It retreated immediately, after cars arrived in the snow-land and after it got its prey. We spoke with children at school. It was around New Year's Eve and once school restarted, I shared it with my schoolmates and teacher, but that was it. I hope that it'll be enough to provide it here that there are Balkan Bulgarian and Macedonian lynxes as well. Elan Morin Tedronai (talk)

Finland is not part of Scandinavia![edit]

Under the section Scandinavia, the situation in Finland is covered. But Finland is not a part of Scandinavia. Scandinavia consists of Norway, Sweden and Denmark. I suggest to change the heading to "The Nordics" or similar to make it easy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.34.149.71 (talk) 03:24, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sardinian wild cat[edit]

@BhagyaMani:, regarding your recent revert:

Firstly, the cited [2] states: "In 1908 Mola published two short articles in the Bollettino della Società Zoologica Italiana describing, firstly, a problematico incrocio di Felidi (Mola 1908a), then a Lince della Sardegna (Mola 1908b). Both descriptions were clearly and doubtlessly related to two Sardinian wildcats (Felis lybica lybica)." Secondly, the cats on Sardinia are actually feral cats.[1][2] Ddum5347 (talk) 18:45, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Vigne, J.-D. (1992). "Zooarchaeology and the biogeographical history of the mammals of Corsica and Sardinia since the last ice age" (PDF). Mammal Review. 22 (2): 87–96. doi:10.1111/j.1365-2907.1992.tb00124.x.
  2. ^ Gippoliti, S. & Amori, G. (2006). "Ancient introductions of mammals in the Mediterranean Basin and their implications for conservation". Mammal Review. 36 (1): 37–48. doi:10.1111/j.1365-2907.2006.00081.x.
I know these refs, have added them myself. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 18:44, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Then why did you revert my edit, even though it was true to the source? Ddum5347 (talk) 18:45, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If it was indeed introduced, it's highly likely not lybica. Why don't you read them yourself? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 18:47, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I read them myself, but if I put it was "lybica", as the source states, then you would revert it anyways. If I put it wasn't "lybica", and instead "catus", you would say that is incorrect according to the source. So either way I can't edit. See the problem? Ddum5347 (talk) 18:49, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's why it's best to leave it as it was : without a Latin name, but just the link. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 18:51, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know why it's so hard for you to let me add information that may be relevant. Ddum5347 (talk) 18:55, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

These 2 refs are NOT relevant for THIS page's section on taxonomy of the lynx. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 19:00, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For just adding "or feral cat"? That's just three words. It's not as out of context as you make it out to be. Ddum5347 (talk) 19:12, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
and for adding above 2 refs : none of them refers to 'Sardinian lynx possibly being a feral cat'. Obviously you did not read any of the 2. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 19:28, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The references are there to point out that the concept of 'Sardinian wild cats' does not exist; they are just feral cats. You obviously cannot analyse context. Ddum5347 (talk) 19:34, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This kind of SYNTH is not my piece of cake, so I remove it when I see it : neither authors stated that Mola's lynx was a feral cat. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 21:31, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

scientific name vs Linnaeus[edit]

Why does the infobox have "Lynx lynx (Linnaeus, 1758)" while the Taxonomy section says "Felis lynx was the scientific name used in 1758 by Carl Linnaeus in his work Systema Naturae."
So, that "(Linnaeus, 1758)" in the infobox is not correct although source(s) claim so. I'd like to know (and it would be good to be in the article, too) when the genus was changed to Lynx. My 70's animal book gives "Felis lynx", so probably in the end of 1970s at earliest, I think. Same thing at least with black grouse, it also claims Linné gave its current taxonomial name. 109.240.7.160 (talk) 08:45, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sources for subspecies distribution[edit]

What are the sources for the distribution of the subspecies? This source does not mention "European Russia", for example. --NGC 54 (talk | contribs) 15:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It mentions Psebay for Lynx lynx dinniki and Kazan for Lynx lynx melinus. The latter is included in Lynx lynx lynx in the six subspecues recognised by the IUCN specialist cat group. —  Jts1882 | talk  16:26, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The source says "Russian Far East, Ussuri and Amur territories, North Korea, NE China (Manchuria)" for Amur lynx, but the article only says "Amur region". --NGC 54 (talk | contribs) 19:51, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Russian population[edit]

Why does the entire Russian population is listed at Eurasian lynx#Central and Eastern Europe? --NGC 54 (talk｜contribs) 10:23, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved Russia to the end of the European list and qualified the Russian population with an estimate of the European population. The IUCN assessment says:

"Lynx has been estimated to number 1,940 in the Central region, 4,110 in North-western region, 680 in the Northern Caucasus, 40 in the Southern region, 2,400 in the Volga region, 1,070 in the Ural, 6,390 in the Siberian region and 5,890 in the Russian Far East ..."

According to European_Russia the first four regions are European, Volga predominantly European, Ural predominantly Asian and the others Asian. I've counted Volga as European to get approximately 9000 for the European total, which is the nearest thousand as long as less than 700 (~30%) are in the Asian part. —  Jts1882 | talk  17:08, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Should have added a ping given the time since the comment. @NGC 54:. —  Jts1882 | talk  19:54, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Montane forest image[edit]

The image removed here should pe replaced with an image that depicts an Eurasian montane forest, not just simply removed. --NGC 54 (talk｜contribs) 12:13, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Go for it.Unbh (talk) 15:55, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Unbh: What is wrong with this image? Anyway, now the caption of the image is "Boreal and montane forest habitats", which is false, since in the photo there is only a boreal forest. --NGC 54 (talk｜contribs) 13:09, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's a picture of a clump of Norway spruce. Its not a good image of European montane. Unbh (talk) 16:25, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wolverines do not prey on Lynx.[edit]

I have yet to see any report of a wolverine killing a grown lynx. I don't even think wolves prey on them either, that'd be too difficult.47.197.29.147 (talk) 15:36, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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