Talk:Road House (1989 film)

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Lede[edit]

"Road House is a 1989 American action film directed by Rowdy Herrington and starring Patrick Swayze and Sam Elliott as bouncers at a seedy roadside bar who protect a small town in Missouri from a corrupt businessman."

This is incorrect on a number of levels. Elliot's character does not work at the bar in question, never having been employed there. His only involvement abetting Swayze's character comes outside when they are fighting with the businessman's henchmen while the booze is getting delivered. Furthermore, Elliot's character makes no intervention in the businessman's affairs indeed, he warns Swayze's character not to get involved.

So it needs a re-write. Will do so further to discussion here. --89.211.140.36 (talk) 16:42, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Plot[edit]

I haven't seen the movie, but was just reading the entry about it. The "Plot" section has a couple of problems.

About five graphs in, there is a first reference to a character named "Emmett" but no identification of who the character is, his relation to the story or who plays him. The character is mentioned again in the next paragraph without further identification. (Oh, in the "Cast" section, Emmett is spelled "Emmet" with on t. I'm not sure which is correct.)

Also, the James Dalton character is mentioned as specifically driving a "1965 Buick Riviera" in the second paragraph, but four paragraphs later the car is described as "Dalton's Mercedes."

As I mentioned, I have not seen the movie so have no idea how to correct these problems. Thanks. Wlampkin (talk) 04:30, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • He has two different cars. There is no error there. Niteshift36 (talk) 04:56, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks. I recast that sentence to make it clearer that it's not necessarily his car, but that he's driving it. Wlampkin (talk) 21:48, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • He owns both. He drives the Mercedes to the town, purchases the Buick, drives it for most of the movie and uses the Mercedes again near the end in the final action sequence. Niteshift36 (talk) 02:02, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Original 210 minute cut[edit]

I collected some info about original cut of the film, which is said to be three and a half hours long, but i seem to be having trouble finding reliable source in order for this to say on site. Any help is much appreciated, original 1989 article with interview with Elliot is online but something's wrong with it, at least on my end, and right now as i'm writing this the making of documentary and director's commentary seem to be no longer online. Just in case, here's what i originally wrote; Andrew Ryder (talk) 18:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Original Cut[edit]

Sam Elliott mentioned in 1989 interview how originally Road House was around three and a half hours long, and how during re-editing everybody who were in the film lost lot of their scenes. Elliot himself had half of his scenes cut out, including what he thought was his best one, a dialogue scene between Dalton and Garrett in which more of Garrett's backstory was revealed including more about relationship between him and Dalton, and Garrett also explained his "Rose" tatoo revealing how it's the name of the girl who was his true love but he blew it with her and then warns Dalton not to make same mistake. More scenes between the two were also cut. Elliot also said how in that same deleted scene Garret called Dalton "fighting philosopher", which is how he calls him in one of the deleted scenes shown in theatrical trailer, which could be the same scene. Trailer also shows several more extended and deleted scenes.[1]

In 2016 documentary "I Thought You'd be Bigger': The Making of Road House" released by Shout Factory, the three and a half hours long original cut was also mentioned in interviews and commentary by director Rowdy Herrington. Herrington mentioned some of the scenes which were in original cut, like introduction of town's sheriff, more fight scenes, extended final showdown which originally showed Dalton taking out all the bad guys onscreen while in the film it's only shown how he takes out last three. Keith David also had almost all of his scenes cut out, originally he was introduced in the scene where his character, Ernie Bass, comes to Double Deuce with his girlfriend and some rednecks start messing with them which leads into one of the deleted fight scenes in which he and Dalton beat up all rednecks, after which Dalton hires him to work as bartender. There were also more scenes between Dalton and Ernie which got deleted during re-editing, and in the final film Ernie is only shown in background of couple scenes for few seconds and has just one line of dialogue. Besides some which were shown in trailers and promotional stills for the film, none of the deleted scenes were ever released, and it's not known does original cut or any deleted scenes still exist. [2][3]

References

  1. ^ Oklahoman.com; "Don't Take Film Too Seriously, "Road House' Star Elliott Says", May 28, 1989
  2. ^ Road House Blu-Ray Collector's Edition by Shout Factory, "I Thought You'd be Bigger': The Making of Road House" (2016)
  3. ^ Road House Collector's Edition - Audio Commentary with Director Rowdy Herrington