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Move the article to "Chinese nation"[edit]

Volk[edit]

It is said that minzu has been used since the 6th century, but whether it was used popularly is another matter. minzu was apparently used as a translation of the German word "Volk" during the Japanese Meiji period, and Sun Yat-sen and Liang Qichao were used in a similar vein. Most of all, Volk means "ethnic", "race", "people", "nation", and so on, just like minzu. ProKMT (talk) 07:00, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is your WP:OR I'm afraid. Brusquedandelion (talk) 10:12, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edits other than Volk[edit]

From Chinese Wikipedia that minzu means "ethnic group" or "race", as well as from articles in English Wikipedia regarding nationalism in other countries. And there's definitely 'Zhonghua minzu' (中华民族) in March of the Volunteers, the official national anthem of the People's Republic of China.

It is not a problem to write down in an article that, depending on the context, 'Zhonghua minzu' may mean "Chinese ethnicity" or "Chinese race." (See zh:中华民族, zh:民族, Korean ethnic nationalism, Yamato people, An Investigation of Global Policy with the Yamato Race as Nucleus)

There is no reason to cancel editing that is not directly related to Volk. ProKMT (talk) 12:53, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Qing/Manchu view of the subject changes over time...[edit]

it might be interesting to discuss the evolution of national identity, including how "Manchu" itself included specify group of Han, so their "Zhonghua Minzu" maybe a rehash of their own evolution of the Manchu identity... as Russian and Korean population grew along the frontier, the need for population to maintain control of their frontier region and stop foreign settlement probably influence their shift in view. 2406:3003:2006:C2A4:8CAD:B952:92CE:C327 (talk) 13:19, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]