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Unrealistic[edit]

In the interests of objectivity, this article ought to mention that many people, especially critics, dislike Curtis' soppy, superficial output, and its fantasy view of Britain that's so obviously made to sell abroad, especially to the US. THere's a rather nice story (recounted in Matthew Sweet's book Shepperton Babylon) of director John Maybury grabbing Curtis by the lapels at some official function and accusing him of having ruined British cinema. Also, anyone who knows Notting Hill knows that, for the past fifty years or so, it's been a largely black/multi-cultural area; not something reflected in Curtis' silly, snobbish film. Dolmance (talk) 13:23, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's certainly odd that Curtis has moved from writing challenging political satire in his Spitting Image days to inane girly romcoms set in an unrecognizable tourist England. Some reference to this would be appropriate, though I don't feel the article is especially fawning overall. --80.176.142.11 (talk) 21:00, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

Richard Curtis (screenwriter)Richard Curtis — This page was originally at Richard Curtis but was moved to disambiguate from Richard Curtis (politician). However it is my opinion that the screenwriter is the more well known and brief look through the incoming links on Richard Curtis appear to mostly relate to the screenwriter rather than the politician. —Tim! 17:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Survey[edit]

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  • Support per nomination. Bob talk 00:14, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Currently the politician Richard Curtis is more in forefront of coverage by reliable sources. I think the best solution is for the plain Richard Curtis to remain a link to disambiguation, at least in the name of NPOV. VanTucky Talk 00:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The problem is that when it was changed, the 100 or so long-standing links going to the screenwriter weren't.[1] Also, I imagine that the politician's current notability is a case of "recentism" and in a few months will not be as important, particularly if he's now resigned. A disambig link on the top of the screenwriter's page should suffice. Bob talk 10:08, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Curtis the screenwriter is of far more significant, lasting, and wide-reaching notability than a politician with a two-year career in a small state legislature. This is evidenced by the incoming links. I agree with Bob that the apparent relative notability of the politician is simply recentism, and, I think, is only due to the scandal. --bainer (talk) 02:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. A google search produces 771,000 hits. There are many uses if this name even if we have not gotten around to adding them all. Vegaswikian 03:20, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

Any additional comments:

Just a note here: there is now a third Curtis added to the disambiguation page. VanTucky Talk 02:05, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We should only be looking at user-friendliness here. At the moment, we have over 100 incoming links to the screenwriter that annoyingly direct users to a dab page. The politician is currently in the news, but no doubt will quickly be less well-known; unless anyone has any overriding reason why we shouldn't make things easier for users (users looking for the politician would still have the same number of clicks to get there) I will move the page shortly. ELIMINATORJR 15:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Birthplace[edit]

Why does it say he was born in England in his bio under the picture but Wellington, NZ in the actual article? Can we get some clarification please? Taifarious1 11:16, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

*Early* writing career?[edit]

Richard Curtis was 38 when he wrote Four Weddings and a Funeral, to call everything before that point "early" is rather sloppy. There's no mention either of his writing work with Tony Robinson, or a novelization of Squirm-I'll need to check on this, but the dates seem to match.

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Curtis and Harrow: fagging[edit]

The article says: “he won a scholarship to Harrow School, where, as head boy, he abolished fagging.[1][failed verification]

Even if the citation didn’t fail, this would need changing. Curtis was not Head Boy at Harrow, he was head of his House - not the same thing at all. Luckily there is an excellent reference for this from The Times Educational Supplement in 2015 written by Curtis himself.[2] This purports to be about how Curtis was inspired in various ways by his Classics master at Harrow, James Morwood, but it contains much more besides, including why Curtis objected to fagging. I will be altering the article shortly to accord with the TES piece. Brymor (talk) 02:01, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense to me. If you are soliciting votes (1) I don't think you should need a vote in order to correct an obvious error (though I suppose if you honestly think the thing could become contentious it is a worthwhile courtesy to mention it here in case it does) and (2) Given that you have found a plausible source, please do it (except that you already did). Especially if (3) the source cited for the false information is still accessible online yet appears to make no mention of Mr.Curtis.
And thank you. Regards Charles01 (talk) 07:40, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ "The Tatler List". Tatler. Archived from the original on 5 February 2016.
  2. ^ Curtis, Richard (27 March 2015). "James Morwood by Richard Curtis". The Times Educational Supplement. Retrieved 16 June 2022.