Talk:Agrology

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Term Usage[edit]

A Google search using the keyword "agrology" on October 31, 2004 yielded the following results:

  • Individual Agrologists: 1982 Canadians 3 other
  • Agrological consulting firms: 33 Canadian 0 other
  • Agrological institutes: 9 Canadian 0 other
  • Agrology regulations: 10 Canadian 0 other
  • Agrology faculty/curricula references: 24 Canadian 3 other
  • Agrology titles: 0 Canadian 1 other
  • Dictionary and glossary entries: 0 Canadian 24 other

Discounting the 24 dictionary entries, the 7 non-Canadian instances encountered with Google were mostly in Russia and China, with individual occurences from Greece, Spain and Switzerland (UN). Paleorthid 04:15, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Fair use confirmation[edit]

  Agrology. noun.
  A. defined narrowly, a science that is concerned with the naturre and arrangement of 
  horizons in soil profiles ; the physical constitution and chemical composition of soils ; 
  the occurence of soils in relation to one another and to other elements of the environment 
  such as climate, natural vegetation, topography and rocks ; and the modes of origin of 
  soils ; B. defined more broadly pedology is the science that treats soils, their nature, 
  properties, formation, distribution, functioning, and response to use ; management and 
  manipulation. Source: European Union.
  
  from: Webster's Online Dictionary - The Rosetta Edition, 
  fair use confirmed by Editor on November 1, 2004

From: "Websters Comments" <webstersedits2@hotmail.com> To: psmall2004@landprofile.com Subject: RE: Agrology Date sent: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 16:00:22 +0000

Yes, Please use the definition from our dictionary for Wikipedia. It seems like you are doing a "fair use" use, so this is absolutely fine. Thanks for asking! Cheers, Phil

Philip M. Parker, Ph.D. Editor, Webster's Online Dictionary - The Rosetta Edition Eli Lilly Chair Professor of Innovation, Business & Society INSEAD Bd. de Constance 77305 Fontainebleau, France www.insead.edu

Academic email: phil.parker@insead.edu Secretary: Joelle Fabert 33-1-60-72-4977 joelle.fabert@insead.edu


Paleorthid 16:19, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Saskatchewan Perspective[edit]

In reviewing the two web sites, I prefer the wikipedia's definition. It is more thorough and captures the components of being an agrologist and the practice of agrology. The wiktionary definition is lacking the content of who is an agrologist and the various roles that they may play. I find this definition focusing too much on crop production and agronomy with no mention on livestock production and farm management advising.

Bruce Hobin, PAg Executive Director/Registrar Saskatchewan Institute of Agrologists ph 306-242-2606 fax 306-955-5561

Original Message-----

Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 5:32 PM To: info@sia.sk.ca Subject: Agrology definition

I have posted my understanding of the various (and conflicting) meanings of agrology at http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Agrology and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrology. I appreciate (and depended on) the very clear information on your site as I grappled with the true meaning of agrology. Please consider reviewing my 2 posts to confirm that my presentation is proper and appropriate.

Paleorthid 17:06, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

failed link - candidate for removal and replacement[edit]

The following failed to load on July 3, 2005:

Agrology Faculty and Curricula - Non-Canadian

Paleorthid 3 July 2005 15:51 (UTC)

External links to provencial agrology sites[edit]

Having external links to provencial agrology sites in the article is discouraged by guidelines at WP:EL and WP:SPAM, guidelines that help keep the project focussed. As a wiser editor than I once stated,

...having links at all is actually a pretty low priority at Wikipedia, since (non-reference) links don't really have anything to do with having a quality encyclopedia. Wikipedia is also not a Google replacement, so the argument that it should be there for the users holds no water. A link, ideally, is only included when it offers something that could never be in the encyclopedia itself.

Moved links[edit]

-- Paleorthid 21:10, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Citation Needed[edit]

@Agrologist: Your recent edit states "Agrology, is a Canadian term coined by the agrology profession and is unique to Canada." Yet agrology is a term published by German soil science founder Friedrich Albert Fallou in 1862.* The term agrology predates 1862 and is used worldwide in universities and national government organizations under a different meaning than the Canadian use. For example the Geographic Institute Agustín Codazzi (Columbia, South America) is a cartographic institution which has an agrology department oriented to soil science: much closer to Fallou's use of the term agrology than Canada's use. That degree of disconnect demands a supporting reference. *(I know this about Fallou from Soil Genesis and Classification, 2011, Buol, Southard, Graham, McDaniel, ISBN-10: 0-470-96060-4) -- Paleorthid (talk) 23:55, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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