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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Novgorod's unusual design (top deck layout pictured) gave the warship a reputation as one of the worst ever constructed?

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I have been amassing data for many years on these type of circular ironclads. This is for a definitive book following an early article in 1974 on these vessels that I had published in the INRO (International Naval Research Organization Journal) " Warship International " (Ref: No 3 1974 p 218).

Would appreciate any data people may have concerning them including rare photographs.

Dr Cliff Roffey

e-mail address; cgroffey@aol.com

Images[edit]

We really ought to have an image - surely one of the ones in the external links is out of copyright? -- ALoan (Talk) 17:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a spectacular painting in Commons currently. -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. (talk) 15:06, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Popovka?[edit]

A translation/explanation of "popovka" the first time it appears would be appreciated by people who don't speak Russian. (i.e *why* did Tsar Alexander nickname it "popovka" - is it a slang term for "great wallowing beast"? Is it a reference to a similarly shaped bread roll? Is it just Popov's name with a '-ka' attached? Then what does the '-ka' mean? Is it a marker for a diminutive? a superlative? an expletive? Is there any significance for the Tsar to be giving it a nickname?) With the statement as it is currently, I feel I'm missing something that would be obvious to someone with more knowledge of Russian and 19th century Russian history. -- 160.129.138.186 (talk) 16:01, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The middle paragraph of the background section wasn't clear enough to show the relationship between the nickname and the designer?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:04, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This wasn't obvious to me either. I've tweaked the sentence to indicate that the nickname is derived from the designer's surname. Modest Genius ^talk 10:32, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

One source template[edit]

Hi all, I added the "this article relies heavily on one source" template because the supermajority of sources were from Mclaughlin. JuxtaposedJacob (talk) 05:05, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly, McLaughlin is the only thorough discussion of the ship available in English. And I'm not about to try and translate his Russian sources just to get rid of this template.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:41, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]