Talk:List of ships named Nautilus

A fact from List of ships named Nautilus appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 November 2004. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that there have been six submarines and ships named Nautilus in the U.S. Navy, some as early as 1803, 67 years before Captain Nemo's Nautilus appeared in Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues under the Sea?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2004/November.

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Some things that strike me:

The preamble looks odd. The info should probably go in a ==References== section, or an ==External link== to a page at the U.S. Navy Submarine Force Museum website, or just on this Talk page.
- I just wanted to credit the source for the information, which in its original form was copied from an email sent to me in response to a request for verification on the origin of the first Nuclear sub Nautilus. (with an explicit statement that it was 'open-sourceable' The information isn't from the website mentioned. I'm trying to recruit LCDR Slauson as an editor. It wouldn't bother me to have the credit moved to the references section, or to this page, or whatever is most appropriate.Pedant

The Category:Ships named Nautilus, well, okay, but the link to Category: Ships by name is really unnecessary.
- Isn't it customary for the main page of the category to be a member of the category itself? Like Submarine is a member of Category:Submarines ... oh, I see, Submarine is not a member of Category:Submarines's parent category ... I'll remove that if it's not already done Pedant
A page about all Ships named Nautilus needs more on the other of the two famous Ships named Nautilus: the Nautilus! Otherwise, you might as well merge this page with USS Nautilus, with a paragraph at the bottom on Fulton's Nautilus.

Also, there's HMS Grampus (1910) née Nautilus.

Check out Wikipedia:How to edit a page for tips on things like making a bulleted list, or getting a ship's name in italics inside a link.

—wwoods 09: 51, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice! I had forgotten the Grampus and couldn't find the Nautilus for some reason. I was writing an article for it. Thanks Wwoods! Pedant 18:14, 2004 Nov 21 (UTC)

The Nautilus is badly named. Nemo's ship was named Nautilus, not The Nautilus. It should be somewhere like Nautilus (20,000 Leagues Under the Sea). Gdr 19:27, 2004 Nov 21 (UTC)

Moved to Nautilus (Verne)

—wwoods 20:25, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Did you update the links? Gdr 12:51, 2004 Nov 26 (UTC)

Largest submarine?[edit]

The article says:

The Nautilus (SS168) was built at Mare Island Naval Shipyard in 1930 and was one of the largest submarines ever built for the U.S. Navy.

SS-168 was 3,960 tons submerged. This is small compared with later submarines such as the Ohio class submarines, 19,000 tons submerged. Does it mean, "one of the largest as of 1930?" If it does mean "as of 1930", which earlier submarines had been larger? Gdr 19:27, 2004 Nov 21 (UTC)

Jules Verne's influence[edit]

I've been thinking about this, and suspect that the influence probably was mutual. Verne probably named his submersible Nautilus because the name had been previously used. And when it came time to name the first real submarine, the Navy was influenced by the popular novel.

Not unlike the fact that Star Trek's Enterprise was so-called because the name had been used for many ships. And then when the first Space Shuttle was built, NASA was influenced by a write-in campaign to name it for the popular fictional spaceship.

Thoughts? Jinian 23:30, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

SS-168[edit]

SS-168 did not sank carrier Soryu. Cite from here [1] "Nautilus thought she had attacked Soryu, and that her torpedoes had exploded when they hit the target. Most evidence, however, is that the ship attacked was Kaga, and that the torpedoes failed to detonate." --Tigga en 05:13, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]