Talk:Eastern Front (World War II)

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Date cleanup[edit]

Article states the following "At 03:15 on 22 June 1941, 99 of 190 German divisions, including fourteen panzer divisions and ten motorized, were deployed against the Soviet Union from the Baltic to the Black Sea. They were accompanied by ten Romanian divisions, three Italian divisions, two Slovakian divisions and nine Romanian and four Hungarian brigades".

This is most certainly not true, because Hungary only declared war against the Soviet Union on June 27th and so couldn't have supplied any brigades for the original invasion 5 days before. The source for this I cannot review directly, as the reference points to an offline Russian book published in 1973. My source: https://web.archive.org/web/20160505212551/https://worldatwar.net/timeline/other/diplomacy39-45.html

Btw, in light of this error, it might generally be useful to review any other info sourced from the 1973 Russian book. As you might know, during the Soviet era, certain historical events really weren't publishe in th official histories as they actually had happened. I recommend Antony Beevor instead, he's got nice war books, and he's not publishing in a totalitarian state which was a direct participant in the conflict the page is about.

Losses of the Wehrmacht and Volkssturm in the Berlin operation[edit]

Can we also point out the Soviet point of view regarding German losses in Berlin? Link to source [1]https://vm.ric.mil.ru/Stati/item/254166/ 37.145.63.226 (talk) 12:32, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Doubtful that there were 8.7 to 10 million military deaths in the Far East theatre in WW2[edit]

I find the claim that “casualties in the Far East theatre may have been similar in number” – that is, 8.7 to 10 military deaths (as on the Eastern Front in Europe in WW 2) – highly suspect.

First, what does this refer to?  Is this referring to the Far East Theatre, normally called the War in the Pacific, which mainly involved Japan v. China, and then Japan v. the United States?  If so, I don’t see how this could be true, especially since most of the deaths in China during this period were of civilians, rather than military. For example, an estimated 500,000 mainly civilians deaths in Nanjing (during the so-called “Rape of Nanjing”), and so on.

The ”Pacific War” entry in Wikipedia estimates 4.0 million military deaths of all allies (including China) between 1937-1945, and 2.5 million for Japan.  This totals 6.5 million military casualties, not really very close to 8.7 to 10 million, as estimated on the Eastern Front in Europe.

Shouldn't this at least be noted somehow, or possibly even changed? Just asking.... Radphilosophe1 (talk) 15:19, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think, you are right. This conclusion contradicts to commonly accepted numbers, and I think it should be removed. Any objections? Paul Siebert (talk) 16:02, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Spain under "Support" in InfoBox?[edit]

The article, accurately, states "Among the most prominent volunteer army formations was the Spanish Blue Division ...". Spain provided 47,000 volunteers in the Blue Division. There was another 2,269 in the Blue Legion. And there was the Blue Squadron of aviators and ground crew. Though less documented, there were Spanish volunteers in the Waffen-ᛋᛋ. They also provided medical services and cooperation. All of the aforementioned were deployed on the Eastern Front.

Spain also provided Germany naval, airbase, communications, and intelligence cooperation, as well as strategic materials. They were neutral during the war, so should not be listed as a combatant. However, their involvement would likely warrant inclusion under "Support" à la the present Allied listing. Thoughts? Surv1v4l1st TalkContribs 01:54, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 15 March 2024[edit]

I would like to add some additional citations to the article, as per requested by the bar at the top of the article page. I am unable to do this right now, however. Robertjhennigan (talk) 23:29, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 23:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]